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I hope one day we get to see real names in this story.

by OptionOfT 1y ago

stronglikedan 1y ago
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- vinceguidry 1y ago
  Utterly absurd. Names don't get called for fear of legal retaliation, it's that culture of fear that allows businesses to keep operating this way.
- dijit 1y ago
  Who's? The predatory bullshit in TFA is widespread, not just in Open Source. We should grant each other herd immunity by spreading knowledge of disreputable entities, ideally with receipts. You're basically complicit in abuse if you do nothing to help others. We're doing so with Oracle. Never knowingly do business with Oracle.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  This company sounds like it is working (or at least did work, hard to say how long ago it was, pre-GDPR, so a while) in a really unethical manner. If we want the market and freedom-of-association to fix this sort of problem we need to learn who to avoid, right?
reaperducer 1y ago
I hope one day we get to see real names in this story. > to protect the privacy of the people and companies involved Companies get privacy rights now? Snark aside, I think I understand how this person feels. I once worked for a company that did something abhorrent during a natural disaster. I spoke up and was reprimanded, while my coworkers just sat there and accepted it. I came very close to losing my job, and ended up leaving the company at my first opportunity. It was 20 years ago, and I keep meaning to write an article about it, but never do. It's not that you want to protect the company, or that you're afraid of being sued. But there's something that weighs on you when you think about actually putting the words down. It's all a decade or more old, so what's the point? Nobody will be held to account. The company is no longer under the same leadership (or even the same name). My personal blog has a dead-man's switch that will reveal a number of ugly things about several of the companies for which I've worked. But who cares? That's part of the weight. What good will it do? If, by some remote chance, someone reads it, it will only make them mad. How does that help anything? But I'm also one of those people on HN who's always crying "name and shame." So, I'm a hypocrite. Such is life.
- deleted 1y ago
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- Lammy 1y ago
  Apologies for trying to guess, but: PayPal freezing SomethingAwful's Katrina fundraiser?
  - myko 1y ago
    I don't think PayPal's name changed
- thatguy0900 1y ago
  It doesn't help that really everyone already understands that basically every company is completely devoid of morality and ethics. Noone who pays attention is surprised or shocked at companies taking advantage of disasters. They're not even above manufacturing the disaster themselves if they think they'll get away with it. Reporting on what they do feels like screaming into the void.
- lawlessone 1y ago
  I'm curious how you implement a deadmans switch for a blog?
  - yason 1y ago
    Schedule a post to be published next month and bump it forward a sufficient period each time before it gets to trigger?
gtirloni 1y ago
The author says the company is very litigious. He probably doesn't want them suing him on a personal basis, which makes a lot of sense. Keep in mind their own directors wouldn't pick a fight with this company themselves.
- Balgair 1y ago
  So yeah, Oracle
yadaeno 1y ago
Too bad they are in EU which seems to not value free speech legally or culturally.
1oooqooq 1y ago
i don't care much about the company names, they all "do" (as much as a inanimate object can do anything) that. i would love they mentioned the name of the people involved.

I hope one day we get to see real names in this story.

stronglikedan 1y ago

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vinceguidry 1y ago
Utterly absurd. Names don't get called for fear of legal retaliation, it's that culture of fear that allows businesses to keep operating this way.
dijit 1y ago
Who's? The predatory bullshit in TFA is widespread, not just in Open Source. We should grant each other herd immunity by spreading knowledge of disreputable entities, ideally with receipts. You're basically complicit in abuse if you do nothing to help others. We're doing so with Oracle. Never knowingly do business with Oracle.
bee_rider 1y ago
This company sounds like it is working (or at least did work, hard to say how long ago it was, pre-GDPR, so a while) in a really unethical manner. If we want the market and freedom-of-association to fix this sort of problem we need to learn who to avoid, right?

reaperducer 1y ago

I hope one day we get to see real names in this story. > to protect the privacy of the people and companies involved Companies get privacy rights now? Snark aside, I think I understand how this person feels. I once worked for a company that did something abhorrent during a natural disaster. I spoke up and was reprimanded, while my coworkers just sat there and accepted it. I came very close to losing my job, and ended up leaving the company at my first opportunity. It was 20 years ago, and I keep meaning to write an article about it, but never do. It's not that you want to protect the company, or that you're afraid of being sued. But there's something that weighs on you when you think about actually putting the words down. It's all a decade or more old, so what's the point? Nobody will be held to account. The company is no longer under the same leadership (or even the same name). My personal blog has a dead-man's switch that will reveal a number of ugly things about several of the companies for which I've worked. But who cares? That's part of the weight. What good will it do? If, by some remote chance, someone reads it, it will only make them mad. How does that help anything? But I'm also one of those people on HN who's always crying "name and shame." So, I'm a hypocrite. Such is life.

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Lammy 1y ago
Apologies for trying to guess, but: PayPal freezing SomethingAwful's Katrina fundraiser?
- myko 1y ago
  I don't think PayPal's name changed
thatguy0900 1y ago
It doesn't help that really everyone already understands that basically every company is completely devoid of morality and ethics. Noone who pays attention is surprised or shocked at companies taking advantage of disasters. They're not even above manufacturing the disaster themselves if they think they'll get away with it. Reporting on what they do feels like screaming into the void.
lawlessone 1y ago
I'm curious how you implement a deadmans switch for a blog?
- yason 1y ago
  Schedule a post to be published next month and bump it forward a sufficient period each time before it gets to trigger?

gtirloni 1y ago

The author says the company is very litigious. He probably doesn't want them suing him on a personal basis, which makes a lot of sense. Keep in mind their own directors wouldn't pick a fight with this company themselves.

Balgair 1y ago
So yeah, Oracle

yadaeno 1y ago

Too bad they are in EU which seems to not value free speech legally or culturally.

1oooqooq 1y ago

i don't care much about the company names, they all "do" (as much as a inanimate object can do anything) that. i would love they mentioned the name of the people involved.