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Thoughts? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3798597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3798597

by jmediast 14y ago

ecaron 14y ago
Proof that 99% of generating good conversation on HN comes from a well-phrased title.
- daeken 14y ago
  No, most of it is timing and simple luck. If you hit the right time of the day (when there are a lot of users present but not a ton of news) and get the first few votes in a good time (which is mostly luck), you'll make the front page.
- cbsmith 14y ago
  Actually, proof that a provocative but false headline on HN will still get the sheep to vote up your article. ;-)
  - aiiane 14y ago
    For the record, the title was actually edited from what I submitted it as.
    - cbsmith 14y ago
      ...and it is still wrong. They do hash their passwords.
      - aiiane 14y ago
        Encryption is not the same as hashing. That said, when I said the title was edited, I was not referring to myself editing it.
        cbsmith 14y ago
        > Encryption is not the same as hashing. UPDATE: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4552358 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4552358 If mrb is right, it looks like they are storing it locally without encryption, which is indeed bad. What I had written before seeing that: ====================================== Yes it is not. As a consequence, they are not mutually exclusive. The title would be correct if it said, "Pandora stores encrypted passwords locally". Guess how much less interesting your post would be with that title? ;-) They hash their passwords. They encrypt their passwords. I'd prefer they only did the former, but the fact that they do the former at all is NOT what most people commenting on this thread understand.
ryanac 14y ago
Over 100 days ago... Now I'm outraged that the HN community didn't notice this before! xD
fourstar 14y ago
I actually found this a couple weeks ago when I was getting ideas on what they store as their as most likes (like rdio) just use value="password".

Thoughts? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3798597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3798597

ecaron 14y ago

Proof that 99% of generating good conversation on HN comes from a well-phrased title.

daeken 14y ago
No, most of it is timing and simple luck. If you hit the right time of the day (when there are a lot of users present but not a ton of news) and get the first few votes in a good time (which is mostly luck), you'll make the front page.
cbsmith 14y ago
Actually, proof that a provocative but false headline on HN will still get the sheep to vote up your article. ;-)
- aiiane 14y ago
  For the record, the title was actually edited from what I submitted it as.
  - cbsmith 14y ago
    ...and it is still wrong. They do hash their passwords.
    - aiiane 14y ago
      Encryption is not the same as hashing. That said, when I said the title was edited, I was not referring to myself editing it.
      - cbsmith 14y ago
        > Encryption is not the same as hashing. UPDATE: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4552358 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4552358 If mrb is right, it looks like they are storing it locally without encryption, which is indeed bad. What I had written before seeing that: ====================================== Yes it is not. As a consequence, they are not mutually exclusive. The title would be correct if it said, "Pandora stores encrypted passwords locally". Guess how much less interesting your post would be with that title? ;-) They hash their passwords. They encrypt their passwords. I'd prefer they only did the former, but the fact that they do the former at all is NOT what most people commenting on this thread understand.

ryanac 14y ago

Over 100 days ago... Now I'm outraged that the HN community didn't notice this before! xD

fourstar 14y ago

I actually found this a couple weeks ago when I was getting ideas on what they store as their as most likes (like rdio) just use value="password".