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The people who wish for these worlds are either complete shut in, terminally online or already spending 8+ hours a day playing video games and walking past thei

The people who wish for these worlds are either complete shut in, terminally online or already spending 8+ hours a day playing video games and walking past their lives.

andybak 1y ago
No. We're fairly normal actually.
- lm28469 1y ago
  The numbers don't lie though, statistically nobody wants VR, we haven't even reached the numbers they were predicating for 2016, 10 years later ... > It says 96 million VR headsets will be shipped in 2020 https://www.forbes.com/sites/paullamkin/2016/02/17/wearable-tech-market-to-be-worth-34-billion-by-2020/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/paullamkin/2016/02/17/wearable-... Turns out they sold half as much.... in 5 years: https://startupsmagazine.co.uk/article-over-51-million-vr-headsets-shipped-last-5-years https://startupsmagazine.co.uk/article-over-51-million-vr-he... > the VR/AR market will reach $182 billion in revenue, including hardware and software/content, by 2025 and bypass television. https://www.startbeyond.co/media/idcvrrevenuereport https://www.startbeyond.co/media/idcvrrevenuereport Meanwhile: "The global virtual reality (VR) market size was valued at $16.32 billion in 2024" I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys, the only people I know of who are semi interested already spend 6+ hours a day gaming.
  - andybak 1y ago
    I don't care how many people want it. I personally never claimed it was going to be a huge mass market thing. It's big enough to be sustainable. Stupid claims by people trying to pump investment hype have no bearing on my interest in the medium. > I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys, the only people I know of who are semi interested already spend 6+ hours a day gaming. The people I know with an interest in VR are mainly artists and other forms of creatives. We must move in different circles.
  - theshackleford 1y ago
    > I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys On the other hand, I do. Isnt it crazy that like, different people have different experiences? Who would have thought!
gmueckl 1y ago
They are also e.g. architects and designers who get amazing new tools to check their work and present it to clients. What is more honest than getting to walk through e.g. a life size mockup of a building? Now you can do that before the ground is even broken.
- lm28469 1y ago
  These tools already exist and have nothing to do with the metaverse. This is such a weird argument, as if we needed meta to spend 10-50b a year in their bs to have these tools...
  - andybak 1y ago
    Tools exist to view architectural spaces in the same way a headset can without a headset? I'm slightly confused. Or maybe you think a headset doesn't add anything to the experience of viewing a space. If so, I'd have to ask whether you'd actually used one. Because if there's any inarguably uniquely appropriate use case for VR, it's "viewing architectural spaces"

The people who wish for these worlds are either complete shut in, terminally online or already spending 8+ hours a day playing video games and walking past their lives.

andybak 1y ago

No. We're fairly normal actually.

lm28469 1y ago
The numbers don't lie though, statistically nobody wants VR, we haven't even reached the numbers they were predicating for 2016, 10 years later ... > It says 96 million VR headsets will be shipped in 2020 https://www.forbes.com/sites/paullamkin/2016/02/17/wearable-tech-market-to-be-worth-34-billion-by-2020/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/paullamkin/2016/02/17/wearable-... Turns out they sold half as much.... in 5 years: https://startupsmagazine.co.uk/article-over-51-million-vr-headsets-shipped-last-5-years https://startupsmagazine.co.uk/article-over-51-million-vr-he... > the VR/AR market will reach $182 billion in revenue, including hardware and software/content, by 2025 and bypass television. https://www.startbeyond.co/media/idcvrrevenuereport https://www.startbeyond.co/media/idcvrrevenuereport Meanwhile: "The global virtual reality (VR) market size was valued at $16.32 billion in 2024" I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys, the only people I know of who are semi interested already spend 6+ hours a day gaming.
- andybak 1y ago
  I don't care how many people want it. I personally never claimed it was going to be a huge mass market thing. It's big enough to be sustainable. Stupid claims by people trying to pump investment hype have no bearing on my interest in the medium. > I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys, the only people I know of who are semi interested already spend 6+ hours a day gaming. The people I know with an interest in VR are mainly artists and other forms of creatives. We must move in different circles.
- theshackleford 1y ago
  > I don't know anyone with a social life who care about these toys On the other hand, I do. Isnt it crazy that like, different people have different experiences? Who would have thought!

gmueckl 1y ago

They are also e.g. architects and designers who get amazing new tools to check their work and present it to clients. What is more honest than getting to walk through e.g. a life size mockup of a building? Now you can do that before the ground is even broken.

lm28469 1y ago
These tools already exist and have nothing to do with the metaverse. This is such a weird argument, as if we needed meta to spend 10-50b a year in their bs to have these tools...
- andybak 1y ago
  Tools exist to view architectural spaces in the same way a headset can without a headset? I'm slightly confused. Or maybe you think a headset doesn't add anything to the experience of viewing a space. If so, I'd have to ask whether you'd actually used one. Because if there's any inarguably uniquely appropriate use case for VR, it's "viewing architectural spaces"