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What exactly was the process to choose the 50 machines? I wonder how "Hay rake" got on the same list as "CNC precision multimachine" for example? If you asked

by eulgro 1y ago

What exactly was the process to choose the 50 machines? I wonder how "Hay rake" got on the same list as "CNC precision multimachine" for example? If you asked me the former is probably more useful than the latter.

modo_mario 1y ago
I'd say the former won't last if you can't fabricate or fix a simple part for which you might need the later.
kragen 1y ago
I don't know if you've been on a farm, but things like gasoline engines, welders, and tractors are pretty important there. To make them, you need machining, and the idea of GVCS/OSE/FeF is to be able to do everything. The "hay rake" in question is supposed to be something comparable to https://www.greenmarkequipment.com/new-equipment/agriculture/hay-forage/wheel-rakes/wr54-series-wheel-rakes/ https://www.greenmarkequipment.com/new-equipment/agriculture..., which is a large and complex machine that requires a tractor to tow it. It involves parts such as tires, bearings, nuts, bolts, chains, and wiring, and its main structural frame is rectangular structural framing welded together. You aren't going to be able to make anything comparable by lashing together bamboo. You need a machine shop.
- eulgro 1y ago
  Oh right. I was imagining this: https://www.fruithillfarm.com/media/catalog/product/cache/a83d16b6a1b667730ddb42964cf817f5/w/o/wooden_hay_rake2.jpg https://www.fruithillfarm.com/media/catalog/product/cache/a8... Which is the hay rake I used in the past to collect hay...
  - kragen 1y ago
    Yeah, I was puzzled about why modo_mario thought you might need a machine shop to make a hay rake — sounds like the kind of thing Primitive Life might make with stone tools. So I checked out the John Deere model number mentioned in the spreadsheet, and it turns out that the hay rake in question can rake hay at utterly inhuman speeds over a wide swath of your field. Handy if your cows are depending on you for winter fodder.

by eulgro 1y ago

modo_mario 1y ago

I'd say the former won't last if you can't fabricate or fix a simple part for which you might need the later.

kragen 1y ago

I don't know if you've been on a farm, but things like gasoline engines, welders, and tractors are pretty important there. To make them, you need machining, and the idea of GVCS/OSE/FeF is to be able to do everything. The "hay rake" in question is supposed to be something comparable to https://www.greenmarkequipment.com/new-equipment/agriculture/hay-forage/wheel-rakes/wr54-series-wheel-rakes/ https://www.greenmarkequipment.com/new-equipment/agriculture..., which is a large and complex machine that requires a tractor to tow it. It involves parts such as tires, bearings, nuts, bolts, chains, and wiring, and its main structural frame is rectangular structural framing welded together. You aren't going to be able to make anything comparable by lashing together bamboo. You need a machine shop.

eulgro 1y ago
Oh right. I was imagining this: https://www.fruithillfarm.com/media/catalog/product/cache/a83d16b6a1b667730ddb42964cf817f5/w/o/wooden_hay_rake2.jpg https://www.fruithillfarm.com/media/catalog/product/cache/a8... Which is the hay rake I used in the past to collect hay...
- kragen 1y ago
  Yeah, I was puzzled about why modo_mario thought you might need a machine shop to make a hay rake — sounds like the kind of thing Primitive Life might make with stone tools. So I checked out the John Deere model number mentioned in the spreadsheet, and it turns out that the hay rake in question can rake hay at utterly inhuman speeds over a wide swath of your field. Handy if your cows are depending on you for winter fodder.