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I don't recall the Soviets building higher quality products.

domador 1y ago
That is an extreme, also undesirable alternative. How about just having a reasonable level of market regulation, especially monopoly regulation?
- WalterBright 1y ago
  The US economy is already heavily regulated.
  - alsetmusic 1y ago
    Laughable because it’s nowhere near enough.
    - WalterBright 1y ago
      Sounds like you really want the government to micromanage everything.
      - alsetmusic 1y ago
        Sounds like I think robber-barons are on the rise again.
  - Teever 1y ago
    I think a good metaphor for the situation is that the US is like a tank and regulations are like armour on that tank. It can both be true that the US has too many regulations (the tank has too much armour) and that it's in the wrong spots (too much armour in the back and not on the front.) America needs less regulations in some scenarios, and more regulations in others. It may very well end up that the net result of these combined changes is less overall regulation and also more effective regulation.
ux266478 1y ago
If you care about high quality products we can start with the OP article and how this system, which is most definitely not capitalism as intended, has directly entailed this nosedive of enshittification for absolutely superfluous and nonsensical reasons. The Soviets succumbed to the exact same mistake, I'm not sure why you would bring them up.
- WalterBright 1y ago
  I presume you live in a capitalist society. That means you are free to start your own business and avoid enshittification and nonsense. Me, I started a game business because nobody else made the game I wanted to play. I started a compiler business because I didn't like the available compilers. I designed a new programming language because the existing languages were not good enough.
  - ux266478 1y ago
    I think perhaps it's my fault for how I worded that reply, but to clarify it has scarcely little to do with products at all. They don't matter. I sure hope you still can make your own tools to your hearts desire, but that's not going to fix anything and it never will. I'll emphasize I'm still confused at your first reply, which reads like a non-sequitur to me, and this second reply makes me think we're having wildly different conversations, so I think I'll just leave it at that.

That is an extreme, also undesirable alternative. How about just having a reasonable level of market regulation, especially monopoly regulation?

WalterBright 1y ago
The US economy is already heavily regulated.
- alsetmusic 1y ago
  Laughable because it’s nowhere near enough.
  - WalterBright 1y ago
    Sounds like you really want the government to micromanage everything.
    - alsetmusic 1y ago
      Sounds like I think robber-barons are on the rise again.
- Teever 1y ago
  I think a good metaphor for the situation is that the US is like a tank and regulations are like armour on that tank. It can both be true that the US has too many regulations (the tank has too much armour) and that it's in the wrong spots (too much armour in the back and not on the front.) America needs less regulations in some scenarios, and more regulations in others. It may very well end up that the net result of these combined changes is less overall regulation and also more effective regulation.

ux266478 1y ago

If you care about high quality products we can start with the OP article and how this system, which is most definitely not capitalism as intended, has directly entailed this nosedive of enshittification for absolutely superfluous and nonsensical reasons. The Soviets succumbed to the exact same mistake, I'm not sure why you would bring them up.

WalterBright 1y ago
I presume you live in a capitalist society. That means you are free to start your own business and avoid enshittification and nonsense. Me, I started a game business because nobody else made the game I wanted to play. I started a compiler business because I didn't like the available compilers. I designed a new programming language because the existing languages were not good enough.
- ux266478 1y ago
  I think perhaps it's my fault for how I worded that reply, but to clarify it has scarcely little to do with products at all. They don't matter. I sure hope you still can make your own tools to your hearts desire, but that's not going to fix anything and it never will. I'll emphasize I'm still confused at your first reply, which reads like a non-sequitur to me, and this second reply makes me think we're having wildly different conversations, so I think I'll just leave it at that.