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> Let them burn Who is "them"? The scientists at the time? The managers at the time? The managers now? The stockholders who have already sold and made their pr

by coryrc 1y ago

> Let them burn Who is "them"? The scientists at the time? The managers at the time? The managers now? The stockholders who have already sold and made their profits?

hobs 1y ago
If we can have a murder investigation and assign partial blame for people that are just there while the crime is being committed, why cant we do it for something that harms the entire human race? Just because we don't have a great framework for something today doesn't mean we should not have it, just that incentives have been against it up to this point.
- bilbo0s 1y ago
  >If we can have a murder investigation and assign partial blame for people that are just there while the crime is being committed, why cant we do it for something that harms the entire human race? Check the bank balance of the people being convicted for being present when a crime is committed. Compare it to the bank balance of the people who harm the entire human race.
  - hobs 1y ago
    Yeah, see my second sentence - throwing up your hands and claiming inaction isn't the way to solve anything. Saying "but the billionaires don't want it!!" sure, let me pre-give up so its super easy for them to keep winning.
  - titzer 1y ago
    > Compare it to the bank balance of the people who harm the entire human race. Yet another reason why we don't need billionaires. No one should have enough money that they can just pay their way through crime after crime.
- coryrc 1y ago
  We won't get there by just saying "they" should be punished; most people can agree on that. Be specific on who and how.
Zigurd 1y ago
Isn't one of the answers found in the dubious concept of corporate personhood?
lm28469 1y ago
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- naldb 1y ago
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2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago
A recent article in The Atlantic said that one scientist would know it's harmful to humans and another would know it's in all human blood and 3M made sure they'd never meet. So the scientist who knew it was harmful didn't know it was everywhere and the scientist who knew it was everywhere didn't know it was harmful. Point is that it's possible to silo scientists in this way so they can't see the big picture.

by coryrc 1y ago

> Let them burn Who is "them"? The scientists at the time? The managers at the time? The managers now? The stockholders who have already sold and made their profits?

hobs 1y ago

If we can have a murder investigation and assign partial blame for people that are just there while the crime is being committed, why cant we do it for something that harms the entire human race? Just because we don't have a great framework for something today doesn't mean we should not have it, just that incentives have been against it up to this point.

bilbo0s 1y ago
>If we can have a murder investigation and assign partial blame for people that are just there while the crime is being committed, why cant we do it for something that harms the entire human race? Check the bank balance of the people being convicted for being present when a crime is committed. Compare it to the bank balance of the people who harm the entire human race.
- hobs 1y ago
  Yeah, see my second sentence - throwing up your hands and claiming inaction isn't the way to solve anything. Saying "but the billionaires don't want it!!" sure, let me pre-give up so its super easy for them to keep winning.
- titzer 1y ago
  > Compare it to the bank balance of the people who harm the entire human race. Yet another reason why we don't need billionaires. No one should have enough money that they can just pay their way through crime after crime.
coryrc 1y ago
We won't get there by just saying "they" should be punished; most people can agree on that. Be specific on who and how.

Zigurd 1y ago

Isn't one of the answers found in the dubious concept of corporate personhood?

lm28469 1y ago

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naldb 1y ago
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2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago

A recent article in The Atlantic said that one scientist would know it's harmful to humans and another would know it's in all human blood and 3M made sure they'd never meet. So the scientist who knew it was harmful didn't know it was everywhere and the scientist who knew it was everywhere didn't know it was harmful. Point is that it's possible to silo scientists in this way so they can't see the big picture.