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For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requireme

For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, this even happened to people who weren't on any government benefits at all. So, a report gets commissioned that a company like Deloitte gets paid $440k for, and then they cheat and use AI to generate it, complete with more errors. Imagine what would happen if they retained Deloitte next to build the system. I foresee another repeat of the Fujitsu Royal Mail scandal.

gdulli 1y ago
You don't have to imagine: https://cybernews.com/news/rhode-island-deloitte-data-breach/ https://cybernews.com/news/rhode-island-deloitte-data-breach...
chris_wot 1y ago
Why bother with going through Deloitte? Just go straight to OpenAI.
- recursive 1y ago
  Dear OpenAI: Whose door should I break down today? There's no need to explain the reason, just give me the address.
  - orthecreedence 1y ago
    Sincerely, ICE
    - lostlogin 1y ago
      When humans want a scapegoat, the target is often chosen based on race. What will AI pick on?
      - noboostforyou 1y ago
        Sins of the father... https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-antisemitic-racist-content https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38480953/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38480953/
      - ratelimitsteve 1y ago
        What the racists tell it to pick. Machines don't do anything humans don't tell them to do.
      - array_key_first 1y ago
        At this point just save the compute and buy a big Price is Right wheel.
      - lazyeye 1y ago
        I think its based on immigration status which is different from race.
        lostlogin 1y ago
        There are cases of those legally in the US being kidnapped. ICE aren’t hitting all races equally.
        lazyeye 1y ago
        What cases? Immigration status is not weighted evenly across all races.
        orthecreedence 1y ago
        https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081.9.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.98... Injured, kidnapped, prohibited from contacting counsel or family, and forced to stay in hospital under watch without cause.
- deleted 1y ago
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citizenpaul 1y ago
I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when it results in men with guns being dispatched.
- OkayPhysicist 1y ago
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  - hooverd 1y ago
    what's that anecdote about the stupid and industrious?
  - citizenpaul 1y ago
    I wouldn't say they are all "smart." Of the random employees from there I've had to deal with. I would not call any of them dumb is all maybe I've been lucky?
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - jmorenoamor 1y ago
    I need that in a tshirt, or a mug, or a billboard.
  - mgh2 1y ago
    https://archive.ph/0fi0K https://archive.ph/0fi0K Source: tons of references at end https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a577eba4f3e https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a5...
    - citizenpaul 1y ago
      I'm not a fan of "consultants" at all. In my experinance all they ever do is either muck things up by black boxing the thing they were paid to do. Or more often simply leave a huge list of "you should do this" that will be $500k, and then leave. What I've heard as a counter to their uselessness is that they function as a sort of legal corporate espionage. You should do this because my other customer that I cant name but I'll just call Mr.Faang is also doing that.
saltyoldman 1y ago
It's the problem in the first place - they probably DID use Deloitte to build the original system.

gdulli 1y ago

You don't have to imagine: https://cybernews.com/news/rhode-island-deloitte-data-breach/ https://cybernews.com/news/rhode-island-deloitte-data-breach...

chris_wot 1y ago

Why bother with going through Deloitte? Just go straight to OpenAI.

recursive 1y ago
Dear OpenAI: Whose door should I break down today? There's no need to explain the reason, just give me the address.
- orthecreedence 1y ago
  Sincerely, ICE
  - lostlogin 1y ago
    When humans want a scapegoat, the target is often chosen based on race. What will AI pick on?
    - noboostforyou 1y ago
      Sins of the father... https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-antisemitic-racist-content https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38480953/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38480953/
    - ratelimitsteve 1y ago
      What the racists tell it to pick. Machines don't do anything humans don't tell them to do.
    - array_key_first 1y ago
      At this point just save the compute and buy a big Price is Right wheel.
    - lazyeye 1y ago
      I think its based on immigration status which is different from race.
      - lostlogin 1y ago
        There are cases of those legally in the US being kidnapped. ICE aren’t hitting all races equally.
        lazyeye 1y ago
        What cases? Immigration status is not weighted evenly across all races.
        orthecreedence 1y ago
        https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081.9.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.98... Injured, kidnapped, prohibited from contacting counsel or family, and forced to stay in hospital under watch without cause.
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citizenpaul 1y ago

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when it results in men with guns being dispatched.

OkayPhysicist 1y ago
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- hooverd 1y ago
  what's that anecdote about the stupid and industrious?
- citizenpaul 1y ago
  I wouldn't say they are all "smart." Of the random employees from there I've had to deal with. I would not call any of them dumb is all maybe I've been lucky?
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- jmorenoamor 1y ago
  I need that in a tshirt, or a mug, or a billboard.
- mgh2 1y ago
  https://archive.ph/0fi0K https://archive.ph/0fi0K Source: tons of references at end https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a577eba4f3e https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a5...
  - citizenpaul 1y ago
    I'm not a fan of "consultants" at all. In my experinance all they ever do is either muck things up by black boxing the thing they were paid to do. Or more often simply leave a huge list of "you should do this" that will be $500k, and then leave. What I've heard as a counter to their uselessness is that they function as a sort of legal corporate espionage. You should do this because my other customer that I cant name but I'll just call Mr.Faang is also doing that.

saltyoldman 1y ago

It's the problem in the first place - they probably DID use Deloitte to build the original system.