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Not in the immediate future. US scientists can and will find refuge in other countries for the time being. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y ht
by phoronixrly 1y ago
Not in the immediate future. US scientists can and will find refuge in other countries for the time being. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y
- DiscourseFan 1y agoI think that the majority of them will realize that salaries for academics are pretty low compared to the US, and they will either join private labs or professionalize.
- ChemSpider 1y agoWhat does a Physics prof at Berkely earn these days? In Germany it would be around 10K€/month (lets ignore all tax etc stuff, just ballpark figure)
- DiscourseFan 1y agoAbout 200k USD, I think? But isn’t 10k€/month relatively high for europe, like on the upper end of academic salaries?
- docdeek 1y ago€10K seems high to me. In France it would be lower than that, I think, save for maybe a handful of outliers. Google search suggests top earners in physics in academia in Germany is probably between €80K and €90K, or maxing out at €7.5K a month.
- Hikikomori 1y agoA lot of their researchers are immigrants and will just return to their country. New students will stop coming and stay in their home country. America is cooked.
- DiscourseFan 1y agoNo, attending a US university in a STEM subject is one of the only reliable ways to migrate to the country now that they've made it much harder to get H1b visas. The flow of immigrants seeking an American education will not stop any time soon.
- dotnet00 1y agoThat still involves H1B though? Student visas are non-immigrant, you still have to transition to an immigrant visa like H1B to actually stay past 1+2 years of STEM OPT
- DiscourseFan 1y agoWas not aware of that