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You know an awful lot of detail about the inner workings of two separate private companies though.

by danw1979 1y ago

InsideOutSanta 1y ago
LOL, now I'm part of the conspiracy. This is all public knowledge.
- dsr_ 1y ago
  Then you could provide sources, please?
  - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
    Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn... Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership: https://www.zefix.admin.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/1189263 https://www.zefix.admin.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/118926... Proton's peering relationships: https://bgp.tools/as/62371#asinfo https://bgp.tools/as/62371#asinfo I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for.
    - steve1977 1y ago
      > Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership It doesn‘t. It’s a joint-stock corporation and while the shareholders are registered, the register is not public.
      - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
        Proton discloses shareholder information here: https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail But I guess they could be lying.
        ddtaylor 1y ago
        Them providing information isn't the same as publicly verifiable information.
squigz 1y ago
Is it really that shocking that someone on HN would have worked at as many as 2 private companies?
- IAmBroom 1y ago
  Nor is it shocking that a company with a PR issue would be astroturfing our forum. The point is: we don't know.
  - vonbullshit 1y ago
    The summary is: if you use someone’s VPN, Tor, etc. you’re just setting yourself up. There is no privacy, and if you act like you want privacy, they’re going to pay more attention to you.
    - rich66man 1y ago
      That's what they want you to think.
  - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
    I would assume that if they were astroturfing, they would be smart enough to use more than one account. Given that, I'm inclined to believe that you are part of an astroturfing campaign.

You know an awful lot of detail about the inner workings of two separate private companies though.

InsideOutSanta 1y ago

LOL, now I'm part of the conspiracy. This is all public knowledge.

dsr_ 1y ago
Then you could provide sources, please?
- InsideOutSanta 1y ago
  Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn... Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership: https://www.zefix.admin.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/1189263 https://www.zefix.admin.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/118926... Proton's peering relationships: https://bgp.tools/as/62371#asinfo https://bgp.tools/as/62371#asinfo I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for.
  - steve1977 1y ago
    > Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership It doesn‘t. It’s a joint-stock corporation and while the shareholders are registered, the register is not public.
    - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
      Proton discloses shareholder information here: https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail But I guess they could be lying.
      - ddtaylor 1y ago
        Them providing information isn't the same as publicly verifiable information.

squigz 1y ago

Is it really that shocking that someone on HN would have worked at as many as 2 private companies?

IAmBroom 1y ago
Nor is it shocking that a company with a PR issue would be astroturfing our forum. The point is: we don't know.
- vonbullshit 1y ago
  The summary is: if you use someone’s VPN, Tor, etc. you’re just setting yourself up. There is no privacy, and if you act like you want privacy, they’re going to pay more attention to you.
  - rich66man 1y ago
    That's what they want you to think.
- InsideOutSanta 1y ago
  I would assume that if they were astroturfing, they would be smart enough to use more than one account. Given that, I'm inclined to believe that you are part of an astroturfing campaign.