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I couldn't really get that segue from Lithuania to Estonia. Did you mean to type "Lithuania" in the last paragraph as well? Here.. > Additionally, I've always

I couldn't really get that segue from Lithuania to Estonia. Did you mean to type "Lithuania" in the last paragraph as well? Here.. > Additionally, I've always been very impressed with Estonia's … Before that you were talking about Lithuania exclusively. And then: > … Estonia's digital infrastructure and Ukrainian software engineering - not just JetBrains … I think it was founded in CZ and is now HQed in NL. Right? A typo? Or there's some relation between the two countries and whether JetBrains has some history with these two that is missing here? (I am not trying to nitpick, really interested in knowing whether there's some angle/twist here, since the post itself is about hidden connections and what not).

eszed 1y ago
They're neighboring small countries with similar (centuries' long) histories of tension with Russia, in its various guises. They're often considered en bloc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states
nerdsniper 1y ago
> (I am not trying to nitpick, really interested in knowing whether there's some angle/twist here, since the post itself is about hidden connections and what not). Honestly that shone through even from the first sentence. I mentioned Estonia because Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia have a bit of shared identity, kind of similar to Sweden/Norway/Finland or USA/Canada. > I think it was founded in CZ and is now HQed in NL. Right? Yes I was just wrong. I was convinced it was Ukrainian for some reason. I agree that the combination of those two points made my post particularly confusing.
konart 1y ago
JetBrains was russian (as in were most people initially actually worked). They were smart enough (like any business in russia not wanting to be trapped) to have registration outside of the country. Some part of management were in CZ. Most of the technical team were in three buildings in St.Petersburg.
- crossroadsguy 1y ago
  Wow. Didn’t know. As an Android developer I find it specially interesting. Not for any nefarious reasons, for I so far believe that JetBrains is one of those companies that has been a net positive on tech ecosystem in general (touchwood!) — be their dev tools or the Kotlin itself. I also follow these people and tools, partly out of professional needs/curiosities.
  - konart 1y ago
    FYI Kotlin language is named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_Island
    - crossroadsguy 1y ago
      Aha. I see that it was also called "Kotling". I guess they missed this opportunity, or maybe KotLang, in which case people would have started calling it just Kot. Also the place seems to have quite a few rebellions under its belt.

eszed 1y ago

They're neighboring small countries with similar (centuries' long) histories of tension with Russia, in its various guises. They're often considered en bloc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states

nerdsniper 1y ago

> (I am not trying to nitpick, really interested in knowing whether there's some angle/twist here, since the post itself is about hidden connections and what not). Honestly that shone through even from the first sentence. I mentioned Estonia because Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia have a bit of shared identity, kind of similar to Sweden/Norway/Finland or USA/Canada. > I think it was founded in CZ and is now HQed in NL. Right? Yes I was just wrong. I was convinced it was Ukrainian for some reason. I agree that the combination of those two points made my post particularly confusing.

konart 1y ago

JetBrains was russian (as in were most people initially actually worked). They were smart enough (like any business in russia not wanting to be trapped) to have registration outside of the country. Some part of management were in CZ. Most of the technical team were in three buildings in St.Petersburg.

crossroadsguy 1y ago
Wow. Didn’t know. As an Android developer I find it specially interesting. Not for any nefarious reasons, for I so far believe that JetBrains is one of those companies that has been a net positive on tech ecosystem in general (touchwood!) — be their dev tools or the Kotlin itself. I also follow these people and tools, partly out of professional needs/curiosities.
- konart 1y ago
  FYI Kotlin language is named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_Island
  - crossroadsguy 1y ago
    Aha. I see that it was also called "Kotling". I guess they missed this opportunity, or maybe KotLang, in which case people would have started calling it just Kot. Also the place seems to have quite a few rebellions under its belt.