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Are there any limitations with this to be aware of? Are Hypervisor/Docker/WSL2 all supported? I'm trying to decide if I want to transition my work computer to

Are there any limitations with this to be aware of? Are Hypervisor/Docker/WSL2 all supported? I'm trying to decide if I want to transition my work computer to Linux or Windows 10 LTSC. Most of my day is spent working inside of WSL2. So, it kind of seems like I should just get on with using Linux native, but several decades of sunken cost have kept me on Windows. I don't think I have a desire to 'upgrade' to Windows 11 and Windows 10 Pro is just about EOL.

trolan 1y ago
The only mid level hurdle you'll encounter is no Microsoft store. It was only an issue for me when gaming, but steam was fully supported. Same for Win 11 LTSC.
- winkelmann 1y ago
  Not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to run "wsreset.exe -i" to install the Microsoft Store. The command kicks off the process in the background, so there's no progress indicator, but the Store app just appeared after a few minutes.
- xvv 1y ago
  I am on an LTSC install. Installing the Microsoft store is as easy as typing `wsreset -i` into an admin powershell.
nwellinghoff 1y ago
Wsl2 features like nested virtualization only work in the win11 version. The ltsc releases seem like the only viable option at this point.
- chithanh 1y ago
  Nested virtualization is a problem for systems with AMD CPUs I think, Windows 10 Hyper-V supported nested virtualization on Intel only. Since Windows 11 it is supported on AMD too.
  - nwellinghoff 1y ago
    I mean inside WSL. E.g. running nested virtual inside WSL env. https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/11216#issuecomment-2898031315 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/11216#issuecomment-2... for details.
anaisbetts 1y ago
Yes, LTSC is literally missing parts that are standard on a Windows install - it's an operating system designed for ATMs and kiosks that run exactly one tested application, it is not a general-purpose operating system. If you happen to not need those pieces, and you don't care about running super out-of-date software? Sure it might work. But it's not a Good Idea in general.
- eviks 1y ago
  > it is not a general-purpose operating system Name a single missing part that destroys the "generalpurposeness" of the OS?
- whyoh 1y ago
  That's not a fair take. The only things I noticed that were missing out of the box are the MS Store and some Dolby codecs. Both of those can be installed easily. I estimate that 95% of people would be fine with Windows 10 21H2 LTSC. The 5% might miss some 3rd party software that requires version 22H2 to run (just because it's the latest, not for any technical reasons).
  - chithanh 1y ago
    Not everything can be installed easily, or at all. WMR is one example which cannot be installed.
chithanh 1y ago
Yes, limitations are that some services do not come preinstalled by default. Some like the Microsoft Store can be installed afterwards. Some like Windows Mixed Reality cannot be installed afterwards. So check carefully what you actually need and decide based on that.
- mynameajeff 1y ago
  Thanks for mentioning WMR. I was genuinely struggling to remember why I didn't install LTSC previously and that reminded me. Half the reason I'm stuck on 10 even if I wanted to go to 11 is WMR. LTSC would be perfect for me if it wasn't for that little caveat (and a few more if my memory serves correct). Awesome that they created and then gutted a standard that just bricks my $400 device that they barely even seem to care to support on launch. There's patches that exist for 11 but they're just that, patches, and my WMR experience is already very jank. Nvidia also seems to be the target for most development so I'm not sure where I'll go once this all settles as I have my gaming PC in a nice position where I can just hop on after work and everything just works with no interruptions or issues currently. 11 is a hot mess and I already know that linux/proton simply won't work for the games I tend to quickly hop onto with friends.
  - chithanh 1y ago
    Other limitations are that modern Adobe products will no longer install on Windows 10 LTSC as it is based on a too old version (but there are workarounds). WMR situation isn't great but there are ways out. If you have a NVIDIA GPU then you can use Oasis on Windows 10 LTSC (AMD GPUs require Windows 11 24H2 for Oasis). Also on Linux, support for WMR devices has improved markedly via Envision / Monado, but some tinkering is required and it is still behind Windows.
jwrallie 1y ago
I recommend Linux native and a MS Windows VM using livbirt/virt-manager unless you have need for GPU acceleration in your workflow. This way you can slowly migrate your software to the Linux side and maybe eventually forget to turn on your VM for months.

trolan 1y ago

The only mid level hurdle you'll encounter is no Microsoft store. It was only an issue for me when gaming, but steam was fully supported. Same for Win 11 LTSC.

winkelmann 1y ago
Not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to run "wsreset.exe -i" to install the Microsoft Store. The command kicks off the process in the background, so there's no progress indicator, but the Store app just appeared after a few minutes.
xvv 1y ago
I am on an LTSC install. Installing the Microsoft store is as easy as typing `wsreset -i` into an admin powershell.

nwellinghoff 1y ago

Wsl2 features like nested virtualization only work in the win11 version. The ltsc releases seem like the only viable option at this point.

chithanh 1y ago
Nested virtualization is a problem for systems with AMD CPUs I think, Windows 10 Hyper-V supported nested virtualization on Intel only. Since Windows 11 it is supported on AMD too.
- nwellinghoff 1y ago
  I mean inside WSL. E.g. running nested virtual inside WSL env. https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/11216#issuecomment-2898031315 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/11216#issuecomment-2... for details.

anaisbetts 1y ago

Yes, LTSC is literally missing parts that are standard on a Windows install - it's an operating system designed for ATMs and kiosks that run exactly one tested application, it is not a general-purpose operating system. If you happen to not need those pieces, and you don't care about running super out-of-date software? Sure it might work. But it's not a Good Idea in general.

eviks 1y ago
> it is not a general-purpose operating system Name a single missing part that destroys the "generalpurposeness" of the OS?
whyoh 1y ago
That's not a fair take. The only things I noticed that were missing out of the box are the MS Store and some Dolby codecs. Both of those can be installed easily. I estimate that 95% of people would be fine with Windows 10 21H2 LTSC. The 5% might miss some 3rd party software that requires version 22H2 to run (just because it's the latest, not for any technical reasons).
- chithanh 1y ago
  Not everything can be installed easily, or at all. WMR is one example which cannot be installed.

chithanh 1y ago

Yes, limitations are that some services do not come preinstalled by default. Some like the Microsoft Store can be installed afterwards. Some like Windows Mixed Reality cannot be installed afterwards. So check carefully what you actually need and decide based on that.

mynameajeff 1y ago
Thanks for mentioning WMR. I was genuinely struggling to remember why I didn't install LTSC previously and that reminded me. Half the reason I'm stuck on 10 even if I wanted to go to 11 is WMR. LTSC would be perfect for me if it wasn't for that little caveat (and a few more if my memory serves correct). Awesome that they created and then gutted a standard that just bricks my $400 device that they barely even seem to care to support on launch. There's patches that exist for 11 but they're just that, patches, and my WMR experience is already very jank. Nvidia also seems to be the target for most development so I'm not sure where I'll go once this all settles as I have my gaming PC in a nice position where I can just hop on after work and everything just works with no interruptions or issues currently. 11 is a hot mess and I already know that linux/proton simply won't work for the games I tend to quickly hop onto with friends.
- chithanh 1y ago
  Other limitations are that modern Adobe products will no longer install on Windows 10 LTSC as it is based on a too old version (but there are workarounds). WMR situation isn't great but there are ways out. If you have a NVIDIA GPU then you can use Oasis on Windows 10 LTSC (AMD GPUs require Windows 11 24H2 for Oasis). Also on Linux, support for WMR devices has improved markedly via Envision / Monado, but some tinkering is required and it is still behind Windows.

jwrallie 1y ago

I recommend Linux native and a MS Windows VM using livbirt/virt-manager unless you have need for GPU acceleration in your workflow. This way you can slowly migrate your software to the Linux side and maybe eventually forget to turn on your VM for months.