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Search for "Local-only commands removal" on the page for the relevant section: Local-only commands removal: We are removing known mechanisms for creating a l

Search for "Local-only commands removal" on the page for the relevant section: Local-only commands removal: We are removing known mechanisms for creating a local account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE). While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured for use. Users will need to complete OOBE with internet and a Microsoft account, to ensure device is setup correctly.

packetlost 1y ago
The requiring internet part is particularly egregious, wow.
- major505 1y ago
  Because it seems that microsoft could not shitify windows experience anymore. I like windows, Its a great system specially for being productive, but the godamn start menu using react and edge and the online requirements are a pain in the ass. Sometimes it just hangs while you click the windows key. All I want is to open notepad++...
  - Marsymars 1y ago
    I've found the start menu is perfectly responsive if you disable its internet results.
    - AlexandrB 1y ago
      This is the story of Windows since 7 (and even earlier if you used the crappified Windows typically included with hardware): "The default experience is dogshit, but with enough work you can fix it." With every release the work required to make Windows bearable increases.
      - major505 1y ago
        Microsoft to push pwa outlook as the default client also is terrible. Why would I want a e-amil client that occupies 3 times the memory of the default outlook client?
torben-friis 1y ago
>While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens Poor people. Surely Microsoft is fixing this by giving them a proper local skip that doesn’t bypass the other critical setup?
- altairprime 1y ago
  Presumably the business/enterprise editions still do?
  - Marsymars 1y ago
    Maybe not for the long term; business/enterprise are mostly using domain accounts for non-server systems.
  - jwitthuhn 1y ago
    Enterprise might but Professional sure doesn't.
    - kirenida 1y ago
      I just installed a copy of 25H2 on a laptop with a previously saved Professional licence. You can just choose to create a "work or school account" and then leave the domain name empty.
      - jwitthuhn 1y ago
        Interesting, will give that a try next time. I guess I never looked because I had assumed that option made you connect to an existing domain.
        kirenida 1y ago
        I've used that workaround on literally dozens of installations in the last few years :)
      - 1y ago
lanfeust6 1y ago
"critical"
beefnugs 1y ago
Sounds like more lies: you can still use autounattend.xml as far as I know. If they broke this it would break almost all the top corporate enterprise stuff (same reason they still have network printer driver vulnerabilities because they refuse to fix old shit in the name of backward compatibility)
MaximilianEmel 1y ago
NOTE: I originally left this comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45497893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45497893

packetlost 1y ago

The requiring internet part is particularly egregious, wow.

major505 1y ago
Because it seems that microsoft could not shitify windows experience anymore. I like windows, Its a great system specially for being productive, but the godamn start menu using react and edge and the online requirements are a pain in the ass. Sometimes it just hangs while you click the windows key. All I want is to open notepad++...
- Marsymars 1y ago
  I've found the start menu is perfectly responsive if you disable its internet results.
  - AlexandrB 1y ago
    This is the story of Windows since 7 (and even earlier if you used the crappified Windows typically included with hardware): "The default experience is dogshit, but with enough work you can fix it." With every release the work required to make Windows bearable increases.
    - major505 1y ago
      Microsoft to push pwa outlook as the default client also is terrible. Why would I want a e-amil client that occupies 3 times the memory of the default outlook client?

torben-friis 1y ago

>While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens Poor people. Surely Microsoft is fixing this by giving them a proper local skip that doesn’t bypass the other critical setup?

altairprime 1y ago
Presumably the business/enterprise editions still do?
- Marsymars 1y ago
  Maybe not for the long term; business/enterprise are mostly using domain accounts for non-server systems.
- jwitthuhn 1y ago
  Enterprise might but Professional sure doesn't.
  - kirenida 1y ago
    I just installed a copy of 25H2 on a laptop with a previously saved Professional licence. You can just choose to create a "work or school account" and then leave the domain name empty.
    - jwitthuhn 1y ago
      Interesting, will give that a try next time. I guess I never looked because I had assumed that option made you connect to an existing domain.
      - kirenida 1y ago
        I've used that workaround on literally dozens of installations in the last few years :)
    - 1y ago

lanfeust6 1y ago

"critical"

beefnugs 1y ago

Sounds like more lies: you can still use autounattend.xml as far as I know. If they broke this it would break almost all the top corporate enterprise stuff (same reason they still have network printer driver vulnerabilities because they refuse to fix old shit in the name of backward compatibility)

MaximilianEmel 1y ago

NOTE: I originally left this comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45497893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45497893