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Autounattend files are about to become far more popular... And on that note, have to recommend this tool for them: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-gener

Autounattend files are about to become far more popular... And on that note, have to recommend this tool for them: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/ https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

fao_ 1y ago
All the lamentations of having to tinker with Linux to get it to work properly are rapidly approaching a nuclear level irony bomb...
- lax4ever 1y ago
  I understand the desire to get out from under the MS umbrella, as there are definitely legitimate gripes. But I also see the irony that if you have the technical ability to install a Linux distro, you definitely have the technical ability to use an autounattend XML.
  - rolph 1y ago
    you would also be perceptive enough to realise, you are resisting an openly hostile actor, and the apron strings should be cut.
    - lax4ever 1y ago
      I don't know about openly hostile. Definitely making moves that the user base openly disagree with and think are, at best, very bad decisions, but I don't think they have crossed the "hostile" line. And MS is not alone with those kinds of decisions. Apple may not "force" you to use an iCloud account for their devices, but they sure push it hard. As far as Linux communities go, Red Hat, Arch, Cisco, and even Ubuntu have also done their fair share of "bad decisions".
      - bitmasher9 1y ago
        Microsoft is definitely user hostile, and has been for a very long time.
      - rolph 1y ago
        everybody else is doing it doesnt excuse the issue. when users make a technical effort to workaround these bad decisions, and you keep chasing after them, subverting said technical measures, in order to enforce said bad decisions, this has gone far beyond being bad decisions; it is being done on purpose to prevent users from opting out of a Hostile ecosystem.
        lax4ever 1y ago
        It doesn't excuse the issue, but it certainly makes it harder to step away from them solely on that argument.
      - 63stack 1y ago
        What would it take for you to admit they are openly hostile? Removing the ability to install without internet, taking up resources on your computer by stuffing more and more forced ai onto you that nobody asked for, resetting default browser preferences, taking screenshots of everything you do, baiting people into uploading their private files onto the cloud through onedrive, and this is still not enough? You still go "oh I don't know about openly hostile?? Hello???
- nebula8804 1y ago
  There is no comparison. Linux suffers from "not my department" syndrome. If some component in the stack borks the install you are in hell trying to fix it and risk breaking something else. Windows for all its faults still has some semblance of the majority of the OS being developed under one roof so things actually work together.
  - le-mark 1y ago
    Post like this mystify me. I’ve been on Ubuntu since 2008 and I’ve never once had a failed install. Now installing redhat from floppies in 1998? Yes that sucked. But it’s been a good experience for a really long time.
    - ziml77 1y ago
      I ran into a bug about a year ago with the Ubuntu installer that caused it to crash on me when I was trying to install it on my Framework laptop. I had to try multiple times before the install finally went through.
      - mixmastamyk 1y ago
        It takes a good six months before Linux supports new hardware well. Usually LTS (or even other) Ubuntu is not recent enough. I recommend Fedora on such machines, and later on Mint (no snap).
        ziml77 1y ago
        I knew someone was going to reply about it being a hardware thing. Ubuntu was listed on Framework's compatibility page as being fully supported. And the hardware was not particularly special or cutting edge. Also, the installer is STILL bugged even with 25.10. Not crashing, but if you connect to WiFi in the installer, when you click next it sits the indefinitely waiting for it to connect even after you can see in the system tray that it's connected. And I tried Fedora at the time but, if I remember correctly, that was the distro that wouldn't load the fingerprint sensor settings page.
mr_mitm 1y ago
I'm currently trying to set one up. What do I have to put in there so the OOBE is skipped, or at least skip the online account part? My goal is to install a Windows 11 in a VM with zero user interaction. Edit: Actually, currently the whole thing is failing after the second reboot for other reasons. I get an error that says there is some malformed command in the unattend.xml or something. Couldn't fully debug it yet - it's possible the setup succeeds after I figure this one out.

fao_ 1y ago

All the lamentations of having to tinker with Linux to get it to work properly are rapidly approaching a nuclear level irony bomb...

lax4ever 1y ago
I understand the desire to get out from under the MS umbrella, as there are definitely legitimate gripes. But I also see the irony that if you have the technical ability to install a Linux distro, you definitely have the technical ability to use an autounattend XML.
- rolph 1y ago
  you would also be perceptive enough to realise, you are resisting an openly hostile actor, and the apron strings should be cut.
  - lax4ever 1y ago
    I don't know about openly hostile. Definitely making moves that the user base openly disagree with and think are, at best, very bad decisions, but I don't think they have crossed the "hostile" line. And MS is not alone with those kinds of decisions. Apple may not "force" you to use an iCloud account for their devices, but they sure push it hard. As far as Linux communities go, Red Hat, Arch, Cisco, and even Ubuntu have also done their fair share of "bad decisions".
    - bitmasher9 1y ago
      Microsoft is definitely user hostile, and has been for a very long time.
    - rolph 1y ago
      everybody else is doing it doesnt excuse the issue. when users make a technical effort to workaround these bad decisions, and you keep chasing after them, subverting said technical measures, in order to enforce said bad decisions, this has gone far beyond being bad decisions; it is being done on purpose to prevent users from opting out of a Hostile ecosystem.
      - lax4ever 1y ago
        It doesn't excuse the issue, but it certainly makes it harder to step away from them solely on that argument.
    - 63stack 1y ago
      What would it take for you to admit they are openly hostile? Removing the ability to install without internet, taking up resources on your computer by stuffing more and more forced ai onto you that nobody asked for, resetting default browser preferences, taking screenshots of everything you do, baiting people into uploading their private files onto the cloud through onedrive, and this is still not enough? You still go "oh I don't know about openly hostile?? Hello???
nebula8804 1y ago
There is no comparison. Linux suffers from "not my department" syndrome. If some component in the stack borks the install you are in hell trying to fix it and risk breaking something else. Windows for all its faults still has some semblance of the majority of the OS being developed under one roof so things actually work together.
- le-mark 1y ago
  Post like this mystify me. I’ve been on Ubuntu since 2008 and I’ve never once had a failed install. Now installing redhat from floppies in 1998? Yes that sucked. But it’s been a good experience for a really long time.
  - ziml77 1y ago
    I ran into a bug about a year ago with the Ubuntu installer that caused it to crash on me when I was trying to install it on my Framework laptop. I had to try multiple times before the install finally went through.
    - mixmastamyk 1y ago
      It takes a good six months before Linux supports new hardware well. Usually LTS (or even other) Ubuntu is not recent enough. I recommend Fedora on such machines, and later on Mint (no snap).
      - ziml77 1y ago
        I knew someone was going to reply about it being a hardware thing. Ubuntu was listed on Framework's compatibility page as being fully supported. And the hardware was not particularly special or cutting edge. Also, the installer is STILL bugged even with 25.10. Not crashing, but if you connect to WiFi in the installer, when you click next it sits the indefinitely waiting for it to connect even after you can see in the system tray that it's connected. And I tried Fedora at the time but, if I remember correctly, that was the distro that wouldn't load the fingerprint sensor settings page.

mr_mitm 1y ago

I'm currently trying to set one up. What do I have to put in there so the OOBE is skipped, or at least skip the online account part? My goal is to install a Windows 11 in a VM with zero user interaction. Edit: Actually, currently the whole thing is failing after the second reboot for other reasons. I get an error that says there is some malformed command in the unattend.xml or something. Couldn't fully debug it yet - it's possible the setup succeeds after I figure this one out.