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Unit 8200 is a cyberwarfare and spy unit. They were responsible for the Lebanon pager supply chain terror attack. I definitely want to know if they are involved

Unit 8200 is a cyberwarfare and spy unit. They were responsible for the Lebanon pager supply chain terror attack. I definitely want to know if they are involved with any tech I'm using so I can avoid it.

pfexec 1y ago
> I definitely want to know if they are involved with any tech I'm using so I can avoid it Are you going to stop using Linux because the NSA is a major code contributor? Huawei is too, and they were founded by a guy from the PLA.
- jasonvorhe 1y ago
  this is not a helpful argument. this isn't about not using Israeli OSS software but services that feed data into the surveillance grid of quasi rogue state.
  - pfexec 1y ago
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- sobelabwhaman 1y ago
  Linux is not operated by NSA and is open for inspection. Can you say the same about VPN services in question? It would be naive to think Huawei is isn’t influenced by CCP, specially if it is found, by presumably someone from PLA intelligence unit by your suggestion.
gruez 1y ago
I don't see how that addresses my point that enlistment is mandatory in israel. You can make similar claims about other israeli military units. If anything, given the current war in Gaza whatever the other IDF branches/units are doing are probably worse than hacking a few phones.
- sporkxrocket 1y ago
  Unit 8200 is part of the IDF and contributing to those war crimes. I as a consumer only need to consider my own risk profile, not the politics of an entity that's committing acts I consider to be terrorism.
  - gruez 1y ago
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tguvot 1y ago
yes. they are involved in tech that you are using. they are working in apple, google, microsoft, nvidia, intel, amd, arm, qualcomm, cisco, etc that have presence in Israel and even expand it. https://www.timesofisrael.com/nvidia-plans-to-boost-presence-in-israel-with-massive-tech-campus-in-north/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/nvidia-plans-to-boost-presence...
- sporkxrocket 1y ago
  Talking about the breath of which Israel has compromised our technology is actually helping to make my point. They're operating a comprehensive surveillance network and have the ability to literally plant explosives in our consumer devices.
  - tguvot 1y ago
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    - sporkxrocket 1y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device... > the attack killed 42 people, including 12 civilians, and injured 4,000 civilians
      - tguvot 1y ago
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  - smileybarry 1y ago
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    - sporkxrocket 1y ago
      A better analogy would be: would you use Nazi technology? There were roughly 8.5 million Nazis.

pfexec 1y ago

> I definitely want to know if they are involved with any tech I'm using so I can avoid it Are you going to stop using Linux because the NSA is a major code contributor? Huawei is too, and they were founded by a guy from the PLA.

jasonvorhe 1y ago
this is not a helpful argument. this isn't about not using Israeli OSS software but services that feed data into the surveillance grid of quasi rogue state.
- pfexec 1y ago
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sobelabwhaman 1y ago
Linux is not operated by NSA and is open for inspection. Can you say the same about VPN services in question? It would be naive to think Huawei is isn’t influenced by CCP, specially if it is found, by presumably someone from PLA intelligence unit by your suggestion.

gruez 1y ago

I don't see how that addresses my point that enlistment is mandatory in israel. You can make similar claims about other israeli military units. If anything, given the current war in Gaza whatever the other IDF branches/units are doing are probably worse than hacking a few phones.

sporkxrocket 1y ago
Unit 8200 is part of the IDF and contributing to those war crimes. I as a consumer only need to consider my own risk profile, not the politics of an entity that's committing acts I consider to be terrorism.
- gruez 1y ago
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tguvot 1y ago

yes. they are involved in tech that you are using. they are working in apple, google, microsoft, nvidia, intel, amd, arm, qualcomm, cisco, etc that have presence in Israel and even expand it. https://www.timesofisrael.com/nvidia-plans-to-boost-presence-in-israel-with-massive-tech-campus-in-north/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/nvidia-plans-to-boost-presence...

sporkxrocket 1y ago
Talking about the breath of which Israel has compromised our technology is actually helping to make my point. They're operating a comprehensive surveillance network and have the ability to literally plant explosives in our consumer devices.
- tguvot 1y ago
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  - sporkxrocket 1y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device... > the attack killed 42 people, including 12 civilians, and injured 4,000 civilians
    - tguvot 1y ago
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- smileybarry 1y ago
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  - sporkxrocket 1y ago
    A better analogy would be: would you use Nazi technology? There were roughly 8.5 million Nazis.