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Those views are "you as a developer." Very few actual end users think about or care about any of these things.

echelon 1y ago
The consumer can't articulate policy. Consumers in a general sense don't know much of how the world works - safe radiation exposure, food safety, drug dosing thermodynamics, household electrical wiring, airborne particulate, airline maintenance... This is why we have a government regulatory regime to protect them. The government has to strong arm companies out of bad behavior, because consumers do not understand. Some people who have Apple and Google stock will voice opinion against regulation. Or people who really love their devices and don't understand the harms. But the fact is that this Titanic command of markets damages the robustness of the economy. Google and Apple are doing massive harm. Capitalism should be hard. It should be a treadmill. You shouldn't be able to coast. We like the market. We like evolutionary pressure. Giants this large, however, are an ecological hack that get to escape the same algorithm we subject every other company to. They created an artificial and illegal means to prevent themselves from facing competition. They're an invasive species picking on ecosystems that literally cannot fight back. It's a good thing that new companies can (or could) threaten old companies. It's a renewing forest fire, a de-ossification. It rewards innovation capital rather than institutions. Apple and Google have found a way to forever avoid this by wedging themselves in as "owners of mobile computing". These two companies own it. Period. You don't. Consumers don't. No other company can even enter into the arena. You play by their rules. Antitrust enforcement has never been more needed. We've had two decades of devices we really only rent and don't own. Devices that strangle consumer control over how we spend our time and money. If America doesn't do it, foreign countries seeking sovereignty should.
ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
You're right. They may be a "consumer" but they're wearing their develop hat. Consumers don't care about update cycles.
- yegle 1y ago
  As a consumer I definitely want my browsers to always be up to date and be able to address 0day bugs as soon as the browser vendors are aware. Any potential delays on fixing security issues make me nervous.
littlestymaar 1y ago
Very few actual care about Apple controlling the apps you install as well. And even fewer understand what “OS API access” mean. Just because consumers are unaware that a problem exist doesn't mean they wouldn't care if they knew.

The consumer can't articulate policy. Consumers in a general sense don't know much of how the world works - safe radiation exposure, food safety, drug dosing thermodynamics, household electrical wiring, airborne particulate, airline maintenance... This is why we have a government regulatory regime to protect them. The government has to strong arm companies out of bad behavior, because consumers do not understand. Some people who have Apple and Google stock will voice opinion against regulation. Or people who really love their devices and don't understand the harms. But the fact is that this Titanic command of markets damages the robustness of the economy. Google and Apple are doing massive harm. Capitalism should be hard. It should be a treadmill. You shouldn't be able to coast. We like the market. We like evolutionary pressure. Giants this large, however, are an ecological hack that get to escape the same algorithm we subject every other company to. They created an artificial and illegal means to prevent themselves from facing competition. They're an invasive species picking on ecosystems that literally cannot fight back. It's a good thing that new companies can (or could) threaten old companies. It's a renewing forest fire, a de-ossification. It rewards innovation capital rather than institutions. Apple and Google have found a way to forever avoid this by wedging themselves in as "owners of mobile computing". These two companies own it. Period. You don't. Consumers don't. No other company can even enter into the arena. You play by their rules. Antitrust enforcement has never been more needed. We've had two decades of devices we really only rent and don't own. Devices that strangle consumer control over how we spend our time and money. If America doesn't do it, foreign countries seeking sovereignty should.

ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago

You're right. They may be a "consumer" but they're wearing their develop hat. Consumers don't care about update cycles.

yegle 1y ago
As a consumer I definitely want my browsers to always be up to date and be able to address 0day bugs as soon as the browser vendors are aware. Any potential delays on fixing security issues make me nervous.

littlestymaar 1y ago

Very few actual care about Apple controlling the apps you install as well. And even fewer understand what “OS API access” mean. Just because consumers are unaware that a problem exist doesn't mean they wouldn't care if they knew.