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OpenAI ChatKit
- nitroedge 1y agono demo link or screenshots in the Github readme? OpenAI surely could have had their marketing department create something quick?
- rbohac 1y agoDemos are at https://chatkit.studio/ https://chatkit.studio/
- rgbrgb 1y ago> framework-agnostic, drop-in chat solution Maybe I'm being dumb but is this a generic chat UI for openai models only? Pretty bearish on adoption of this if so. As a pragmatic dev I'd definitely not be keen to bake model lock-in into my UI for functionality as generic as chat.
- falcor84 1y agoThe openai library works with most other providers by just changing the endpoint url, and this is Apache licensed, so I feel good about using it.
- jaikant 1y agoIs there a place to change the endpoint url? It seems we just add the workflow id and generates a secret which is used by the frontend. Apache license is good though
- falcor84 1y agoNote that their basic example in the readme starts with `OpenAI(api_key=os.environ["OPENAI_API_KEY"])` Generally speaking, in most regular usages, you can replace it with an alternative provider like Openrouter, with `OpenAI( base_url="https://openrouter.ai/api/v1 https://openrouter.ai/api/v1", api_key="<OPENROUTER_API_KEY>")` But I haven't tested chatkit yet and don't know if it might be using special endpoints that are currently only supported by OpenAI. IANAL, but would assume though that if the client is Apache licensed, then it wouldn't be an issue for Openrouter and others AI providers to develop their own versions of those endpoints. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but based on what I'm seeing with MCP and other recent developments, the industry is continuously gravitating towards a commoditized/interchangeable future where no provider has a structural moat.
- elpakal 1y agoLooks like it supports custom backends
- ttoinou 1y agoGreat ! The strategy to make your complementary product easy to create All else being equal, demand for a product increases when the prices of its complements decrease. by JOEL SPOLSKY, Strategy Letter V https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/
- lukax 1y agoThis looks very similar to CopilotKit and AG-UI. With CopilotKit you can have some tools implemented client-side and others server-side using AG-UI. https://www.copilotkit.ai/ https://www.copilotkit.ai/ With ChatKit you can proxy everything through your ChatKit API "proxy" and implement the "agentic" stuff in the proxy. Even the React APIs look very similar. Looks like a vendor lock-in and a way to stop the AG-UI ecosystem
- peab 1y agoBut even with AG-UI,CopilotKit is a paid service. Everyone's trying to do vendor lock in, it's really annoying. They make the dev experience worse and you have to pay for it? It's like every langcrap service out there
- lukax 1y agoAnd CopilotKit needs a JS backend for a proxy that holds the state for the chat which is quite a pain if you want to scalably self-host. Maybe ChatKit will be less lock-in than CopilotKit.
- sfarshid 1y agoI work on assistant-ui.com MIT and no proprietary cloud/proxy service :) We do sell a chat history service if you don’t want to manage your own database though
- theblazehen 1y agoHave you looked at using AG-UI? I'm working on https://github.com/theblazehen/react-ag-ui https://github.com/theblazehen/react-ag-ui which implements the ag-ui protocol, however your solution looks significantly more polished. I'd be interested in potential collaboration,
- jaikant 1y agoI hope you were not one of those who applied for the startup accel at openai, it seems they just pulled the rug from under those startups by building what they were.
- righthand 1y ago> Your screen is too small for chatkit.world > Make your window wider or open on desktop to continue For a chat app UI? (BTW, I had to take a screenshot then use image to text inference in order to copy that message)
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- Tostino 1y agoHere it is in all it's glory (Pixel 7 Pro): https://imgbox.com/EUhc4iVi https://imgbox.com/EUhc4iVi
- teabee89 1y ago> framework-agnostic Later, > 2. Install the React bindings So not so framework-agnostic, or am I missing something ?
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- compacct27 1y agoThey have web components if you want
- mpeg 1y agoThere's barely any code in the js bindings anyway. It's just a thin component which defines an interface to communicate with it via events. The logic all happens in the (AFAIK) closed source iframe that gets injected from https://cdn.platform.openai.com/deployments/ https://cdn.platform.openai.com/deployments/
- WanderPanda 1y agoDid they still not release "Bring your own subscription" "login with ChatGPT" and letting people apply their subscription/quota to other apps/services? There are so many use-cases where someone builds a usefull scaffold (e.g. even static website) that could benefit from integration with LLMs but rolling the authentication, having API-keys, free budgets etc. is scary. It would be much better if that could be outsourced to the LLM provider of the user. It would bear a good lock-in effect for OAI as well
- qiller 1y agoWould be great if they provided at least some guidance how to keep this thing on topic. Even the official demo https://chatkit.world/ https://chatkit.world/ is not restricted, it happily chats about whatever.
- ch4s3 1y agoOh man this thing tells me my iPhone 13 mini isn’t wide enough to use it, that’s rough.
- joshstrange 1y agoIt doesn’t work on my iPhone 17 Pro Max either and when I turn it to landscape it’s buggy and doesn’t work. Great demo…
- kelvinjps10 1y agoDoesn't work either on my Samsung s25
- kingstnap 1y agoThats like the opposite of what Open AI would really want though. They want people walking up saying "we commit to spending $100k monthly for the next year let's discuss bulk discounts."
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- _pdp_ 1y agoThere are so many libraries called chatkit or some variation of that including the one I am working on - chatbotkit (I guess some SEO will rub off). Apart from that, it looks like an interesting initiative, but I fail to see what this is supposed to replace. Widgets? Customer support? I mean, sure, you can create some kind of question-answer bot, but for something more substantial, you'll need a completely different dashboard and backend. I can't see how OpenAI will accomplish this without butchering their existing UI.
- heystefan 1y agoI wonder how it compares to https://ai-sdk.dev https://ai-sdk.dev
- esafak 1y agoWhat are the benefits of this framework compared with alternatives, and will it work with frameworks other than React?
- cronelius 1y agotheir chatkit demo (chatkit.world) doesn't even work in safari. also "react bindings" and "vanilla js" isn't exactly "framework-agnostic". I don't like the idea of embedding someone else's UI in my app. This seems like an overly generalized solution for a specific set of problems.
- jaikant 1y agoit doesn't work in chrome either
- maguay 1y agoSmart for OpenAI to launch, from a product lock-in perspective, since most similar chat sidebars in apps tend to let one choose the AI model from a list that always seems to include Claude as well.... But for that same reason, not sure I'd want to implement this into products since it does lock you into OpenAI, only.
- alansaber 1y agoThey badly need more sticky adoption, openai specific workflows are the play for them (docgpt, this automation no-code, etc).
- jhancock 1y agodeep-chat is a solid chat UI https://github.com/OvidijusParsiunas/deep-chat https://github.com/OvidijusParsiunas/deep-chat
- nayroclade 1y agoIMO it is usually a mistake to integrate AI as a separate chat function in the UI. AI(s) be integrated into existing chat and collaboration features via @ tagging. E.g. in something like Figma or Google Docs, you should be able to add comments, tag @ai, and ask it for feedback or to make changes just as you would if you were collaborating with a human. Putting the AI inside its own private chat button often makes it feel like a Clippy-esque gimmick.
- break_the_bank 1y agohaha, shameless plug but if you use Google Sheets you can try adding `try@tabtabtab.ai` to the sheet as an editor, tagging it and giving it work
- zknicker 1y agoSolid insight - I actually tried implementing an AI chat into my app. It's just an internal app for my own productivity purposes with my eCommerce business, but I felt I had a credible use case for having it there. At the end of the day, the work required to get it to a spot where it was useful and not janky was just too much (even with the AI tooling provided by Vercel's AI SDK). And, even though I got it working, I never found a reason to use it that I didn't feel like could just be achieved more smoothly with some buttons and text inputs.
- WilcoKruijer 1y agoInteresting how they claim to be "framework-agnostic" but only support React and don't really integrate with any backend framework. I've been building something that helps create proper framework-agnostic libraries[0], I even use AI chat as an example. [0] https://fragno.dev/ https://fragno.dev/
- tonyoconnell 1y agoMaybe you could use your software to help them support other frameworks
- paxys 1y agoThey don't only support React. There are examples in their guide for how to do all theming with vanilla JS. And you can use any backend you want.
- yohskar 1y agoI think fragno proposition is sleek.
- jaikant 1y agoIt supports vanilla Js, so that covers all frameworks. I see your pain, I built predictabledialogs.com and didn't expect OpenAI to do a no code builder and a chat widget. eeks I was hoping they will aim for AGI while we do the boring work.
- thevinchi 1y agolost me at `npm install …`