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Thank you for writing this! It is getting harder and harder to continue buying Apple products and I have moved to buying refurbs as the electronics space is qu

by codyb 1y ago

Thank you for writing this! It is getting harder and harder to continue buying Apple products and I have moved to buying refurbs as the electronics space is quite limited in options and the ecosystem lock in is real. It's a shame, because I was a huge fan of Apple's privacy stances and their work on accessibility. I emailed tim.cook@apple.com directly the day he stood behind Trump at his inauguration. Didn't get a bounce back, so maybe someone read it. Stand up, fight back!

greatgib 1y ago
Emailing Tim is like pissing in the wind... Vote and impact them with your money. Just don't buy their stuff. Buying refurb is not much better, because it still raise the value of their products and brand by showing that devices have a big second hand value so it worth to buy as it will not lose value. And also, you will be proudly showing off your Apple devices all around instead of setting an example.
- codyb 1y ago
  Absolutely! I plan to slow purchases to the bare minimum as well. Sadly, there's not a ton of competition in the electronics space. And yea, refurbs bolster the market since it increases resale value. That being said, I'm doing something, and all these small actions add up when they're done by many. If we all piss in the wind a little, it can add up to a waterfall.
- happymellon 1y ago
  Although Android followed the same path. With them out of the way we have Jolla? Which banking services support them because I don't think anything else is practical, is it?
  - greatgib 1y ago
    I'm trying a FuriPhone that is nice so far. Obviously a few limitations like always but you still have the escape hatch to run android apps in a sandbox when needed.
karmelapple 1y ago
Just like the ideal political candidate to vote for generally does not exist for anyone, the ideal company with perfect stances and behavior on everything generally does not exist. So yes, scale back your purchasing, but as you said: the options are limited, just like political candidates. Choose who matches up best with you, support them, but unlike your relationship to Apple, political participation has a VERY different piece. You can't just show up and start influencing policy at Apple headquarters. But you CAN just show up to some local organizing meetings of local grassroots organizations and political parties and influence things. You can have a direct impact, and these groups are usually small enough with few enough participants in your town that you WILL have a decent impact.
- codyb 1y ago
  100 percent!

by codyb 1y ago

greatgib 1y ago

Emailing Tim is like pissing in the wind... Vote and impact them with your money. Just don't buy their stuff. Buying refurb is not much better, because it still raise the value of their products and brand by showing that devices have a big second hand value so it worth to buy as it will not lose value. And also, you will be proudly showing off your Apple devices all around instead of setting an example.

codyb 1y ago
Absolutely! I plan to slow purchases to the bare minimum as well. Sadly, there's not a ton of competition in the electronics space. And yea, refurbs bolster the market since it increases resale value. That being said, I'm doing something, and all these small actions add up when they're done by many. If we all piss in the wind a little, it can add up to a waterfall.
happymellon 1y ago
Although Android followed the same path. With them out of the way we have Jolla? Which banking services support them because I don't think anything else is practical, is it?
- greatgib 1y ago
  I'm trying a FuriPhone that is nice so far. Obviously a few limitations like always but you still have the escape hatch to run android apps in a sandbox when needed.

karmelapple 1y ago

Just like the ideal political candidate to vote for generally does not exist for anyone, the ideal company with perfect stances and behavior on everything generally does not exist. So yes, scale back your purchasing, but as you said: the options are limited, just like political candidates. Choose who matches up best with you, support them, but unlike your relationship to Apple, political participation has a VERY different piece. You can't just show up and start influencing policy at Apple headquarters. But you CAN just show up to some local organizing meetings of local grassroots organizations and political parties and influence things. You can have a direct impact, and these groups are usually small enough with few enough participants in your town that you WILL have a decent impact.

codyb 1y ago
100 percent!