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This was after Trump's secretary of war said the following on the same stage: “We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy,” Hegseth said. “We

by tdeck 1y ago

This was after Trump's secretary of war said the following on the same stage: “We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy,” Hegseth said. “We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.” It's not exactly subtle. The message is "we're going to commit war crimes more" and "we plan to use the military against people inside the US".

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BLKNSLVR 1y ago
> stupid rules of engagement This should be repeated far and wide in the media for, as you have specified, what it really means. I mean, Secretary Pete Hegseth, in his prior role as a Fox News mouthpiece, he defended the actions of a convicted war criminal[0][1], so he has form in displaying a total lack of ethics. [0]: https://time.com/7176342/pete-hegseth-donald-trump-pardon-war-crimes-military/ https://time.com/7176342/pete-hegseth-donald-trump-pardon-wa... [1]: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/turning-a-blind-eye-to-war-crimes https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/turning-a-blind-eye...
foogazi 1y ago
All very vague We all have an understanding of the power of the US military and its foreign agencies But it’s tough to square this quote with that - what is going to change ? What does a nuclear superpower need to be untied ? Mass world surveillance, bombing foreign countries? All of that has happened - what more is needed and why ?
- ModernMech 1y ago
  > All of that has happened - what more is needed and why ? Who they are threatening: 1) Latin American people and countries 2) Canada + Greenland 3) US Liberal cities. The American war machine has come home to the Western hemisphere. This is a declaration of war against us. As for the why... again listen to them. Trump said it: "I am your retribution". This is all about settling petty vindictive scores.
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- tdeck 1y ago
  In the past there was a sense that certain kinds of war crimes needed to at least be done secretly and sparingly by the US military. Although this statement might be seen as a new era of honesty, I'm not looking forward to the next stage. If Hegseth thinks the US war machine is too restrained now, imagine what things won't even be surprising in a few years.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  The main difference is that the US doesn't flex it's imperialistic attitudes on its own citizenry. That's reserved for the global periphery, where we can conveniently ignore it.

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BLKNSLVR 1y ago

> stupid rules of engagement This should be repeated far and wide in the media for, as you have specified, what it really means. I mean, Secretary Pete Hegseth, in his prior role as a Fox News mouthpiece, he defended the actions of a convicted war criminal[0][1], so he has form in displaying a total lack of ethics. [0]: https://time.com/7176342/pete-hegseth-donald-trump-pardon-war-crimes-military/ https://time.com/7176342/pete-hegseth-donald-trump-pardon-wa... [1]: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/turning-a-blind-eye-to-war-crimes https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/turning-a-blind-eye...

foogazi 1y ago

All very vague We all have an understanding of the power of the US military and its foreign agencies But it’s tough to square this quote with that - what is going to change ? What does a nuclear superpower need to be untied ? Mass world surveillance, bombing foreign countries? All of that has happened - what more is needed and why ?

ModernMech 1y ago
> All of that has happened - what more is needed and why ? Who they are threatening: 1) Latin American people and countries 2) Canada + Greenland 3) US Liberal cities. The American war machine has come home to the Western hemisphere. This is a declaration of war against us. As for the why... again listen to them. Trump said it: "I am your retribution". This is all about settling petty vindictive scores.
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tdeck 1y ago
In the past there was a sense that certain kinds of war crimes needed to at least be done secretly and sparingly by the US military. Although this statement might be seen as a new era of honesty, I'm not looking forward to the next stage. If Hegseth thinks the US war machine is too restrained now, imagine what things won't even be surprising in a few years.
array_key_first 1y ago
The main difference is that the US doesn't flex it's imperialistic attitudes on its own citizenry. That's reserved for the global periphery, where we can conveniently ignore it.