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Yes it is sad that the whole Nobel prize coverage will be just a background to a week talking about Trump, whether he wins or not :(

slightwinder 1y ago
I don't think anyone seriously believes he will win. Despite making up all kind of wars and conflicts he claims to have solved, there hasn't been any real peace coming from him, yet. Maybe Gaza turns out to something real, but it's not done yet, and I kinda doubt they decide on these prices on a short whim. And if development in the USA continues like at the moment, I doubt he will be considered next year. It will be just one conflict cancelling out one peace.
- garbthetill 1y ago
  but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s Yeah its weird how he explicitly states he wants a peace prize and then turns around and does very hellish things, rips up Aid programs, impose one sided tariffs without caring about your allies, belittle a president desperately trying to fight for his countries sovereignty, mafia style negotiations for said country minerals without a security guarantee in order to send weapons, trash nato allies repeatedly, taunt allies that you wont honor security guarantees if they dont do x , remove historical names for no good reason from various government objects , alienate out entire class of people with your rhetoric while using a platform thats supposed to be bipartisan, deport & arrest people while bypassing judges as much as you can
  - Forgeties79 1y ago
    >but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s Ugh giving me flashbacks to the “the office will change him” arguments. Can’t believe people actually said that out loud. If he somehow got the peace prize as he balloons a department sneaking around in plain clothes with their faces covered rounding people up at work and terrifying/ripping families apart then the prize is truly a joke. Luckily there’s no way he’s getting it.
  - philipallstar 1y ago
    > rips up Aid programs This is a misleading miscapitalisation. USAID isn't about aid. It's about "international development" - i.e. soft power in ideologically contested nations.
    - phendrenad2 1y ago
      Thank you. Partisan hacks like garbthetill just keep posting this stuff. It's like it's what they're here for.
- jeffbee 1y ago
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matsemann 1y ago
Oh well, the comments will also be filled with complaints about Kissinger, Obama, Teresa, Arafat... and how the prize therefore somehow is worthless. 2020 thread has 30 comments mentioning Trump, 20 comments mentioning Obama.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24728142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24728142 Instead of celebrating the winners, some people just want to complain.
- boxed 1y ago
  > Instead of celebrating the winners Well.. assuming the winner isn't a war criminal we can celebrate at least :P
- IAmBroom 1y ago
  Both are valid topics.
  - matsemann 1y ago
    Sure, but is it worth discussing again and again and again? To me it's like beating a dead horse. Every year, the same discussion here. Drowns the more interesting discussion about the actual winners.
    - busyant 1y ago
      I get your point. It is possible, however, that it's different people each year having roughly the same conversation. But this is true of many topics.
    - philipallstar 1y ago
      Talking about Trump is also like beating a dead horse to some people. Doesn't really matter. People are allowed to talk about stuff.
      - aspenmayer 1y ago
        Dead horses don’t generally beat themselves, after all; hobby horses doubly so.
giarc 1y ago
He won't win. How could the committee look at him, while he is actively celebrating killing people off the coast of Venezuela (whether they are smuggling drugs or not) and give him the Peace Prize.
- criddell 1y ago
  I guess it depends on whether or not the committee members plan on visiting the US anytime soon.
- tdeck 1y ago
  Trump isn't good enough at blackmail. Netanyahu, on the other hand...
- coolspot 1y ago
  Obama authorized 54 strikes in Pakistan in his first year, resulting in estimated 100 civilians dead. He received Nobel peace prize that year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan

slightwinder 1y ago

I don't think anyone seriously believes he will win. Despite making up all kind of wars and conflicts he claims to have solved, there hasn't been any real peace coming from him, yet. Maybe Gaza turns out to something real, but it's not done yet, and I kinda doubt they decide on these prices on a short whim. And if development in the USA continues like at the moment, I doubt he will be considered next year. It will be just one conflict cancelling out one peace.

garbthetill 1y ago
but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s Yeah its weird how he explicitly states he wants a peace prize and then turns around and does very hellish things, rips up Aid programs, impose one sided tariffs without caring about your allies, belittle a president desperately trying to fight for his countries sovereignty, mafia style negotiations for said country minerals without a security guarantee in order to send weapons, trash nato allies repeatedly, taunt allies that you wont honor security guarantees if they dont do x , remove historical names for no good reason from various government objects , alienate out entire class of people with your rhetoric while using a platform thats supposed to be bipartisan, deport & arrest people while bypassing judges as much as you can
- Forgeties79 1y ago
  >but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s Ugh giving me flashbacks to the “the office will change him” arguments. Can’t believe people actually said that out loud. If he somehow got the peace prize as he balloons a department sneaking around in plain clothes with their faces covered rounding people up at work and terrifying/ripping families apart then the prize is truly a joke. Luckily there’s no way he’s getting it.
- philipallstar 1y ago
  > rips up Aid programs This is a misleading miscapitalisation. USAID isn't about aid. It's about "international development" - i.e. soft power in ideologically contested nations.
  - phendrenad2 1y ago
    Thank you. Partisan hacks like garbthetill just keep posting this stuff. It's like it's what they're here for.
jeffbee 1y ago
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matsemann 1y ago

Oh well, the comments will also be filled with complaints about Kissinger, Obama, Teresa, Arafat... and how the prize therefore somehow is worthless. 2020 thread has 30 comments mentioning Trump, 20 comments mentioning Obama.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24728142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24728142 Instead of celebrating the winners, some people just want to complain.

boxed 1y ago
> Instead of celebrating the winners Well.. assuming the winner isn't a war criminal we can celebrate at least :P
IAmBroom 1y ago
Both are valid topics.
- matsemann 1y ago
  Sure, but is it worth discussing again and again and again? To me it's like beating a dead horse. Every year, the same discussion here. Drowns the more interesting discussion about the actual winners.
  - busyant 1y ago
    I get your point. It is possible, however, that it's different people each year having roughly the same conversation. But this is true of many topics.
  - philipallstar 1y ago
    Talking about Trump is also like beating a dead horse to some people. Doesn't really matter. People are allowed to talk about stuff.
    - aspenmayer 1y ago
      Dead horses don’t generally beat themselves, after all; hobby horses doubly so.

giarc 1y ago

He won't win. How could the committee look at him, while he is actively celebrating killing people off the coast of Venezuela (whether they are smuggling drugs or not) and give him the Peace Prize.

criddell 1y ago
I guess it depends on whether or not the committee members plan on visiting the US anytime soon.
tdeck 1y ago
Trump isn't good enough at blackmail. Netanyahu, on the other hand...
coolspot 1y ago
Obama authorized 54 strikes in Pakistan in his first year, resulting in estimated 100 civilians dead. He received Nobel peace prize that year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan