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How is rv threatening rubygems? I am pretty excited about rv on first glance, I tried it and it was too beta when I did to work nicely, but definitely good to h

How is rv threatening rubygems? I am pretty excited about rv on first glance, I tried it and it was too beta when I did to work nicely, but definitely good to have a uv type tool for ruby.

KingOfCoders 1y ago
"Yes, I agree. And some of the “admins” even announced publicly many days ago they were launching a competitor tool and were funding raising for it. I’d not trust the system to such “admin”." https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpobhc2x https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpob... See https://spinel.coop/ https://spinel.coop/ "Spinel develops rv, the next-generation Ruby version manager"
- phoronixrly 1y ago
  This doesn't explain how rv is threatening rubygems in any way.
  - KingOfCoders 1y ago
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    - phoronixrly 1y ago
      Oh, don't worry, I get what you and Rafael are trying to insinuate. I just want you to spell it out so that hopefully you see how stupid it sounds.
      - KingOfCoders 1y ago
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  - x3n0ph3n3 1y ago
    They were using the name "rubygems" to fund-raise for not-"rubygems."
    - phoronixrly 1y ago
      But how is this a conflict? Both are not-for-profit projects with the same goal? How can one even use the term 'competition' in this context? What if the Ruby community embraces a new and better package manager? This is, again, a net win for the Ruby community, and both projects strive for that?
      - x3n0ph3n3 1y ago
        It doesn't really matter if it's a non-profit. How do you think your company would react if you started raising money using their name?
        phoronixrly 1y ago
        Is Rubygems a company? My mind cannot comprehend why are people conflating not-for-profit open-source projects with for-profit companies... If Rubygems was a company, they'd have a trademark, they'd have patents, they'd have lawyers to protect the money they were making from their brand and product. But we are speaking about not-for-profit open-source projects, not for for-profit corporations!
        dismalaf 1y ago
        Ruby Central is a company that manages rubygems.org and rubygems. The maintainers who were locked out were being paid by Ruby Central while fundraising for their startup creating a competitor. Doesn't it seem like a bit of a security risk to you?
        krainboltgreene 1y ago
        No. (Disclaimer I got paid to work on rubygems and have been doing this for 18 years)

How is rv threatening rubygems? I am pretty excited about rv on first glance, I tried it and it was too beta when I did to work nicely, but definitely good to have a uv type tool for ruby.

KingOfCoders 1y ago

"Yes, I agree. And some of the “admins” even announced publicly many days ago they were launching a competitor tool and were funding raising for it. I’d not trust the system to such “admin”." https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpobhc2x https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpob... See https://spinel.coop/ https://spinel.coop/ "Spinel develops rv, the next-generation Ruby version manager"

phoronixrly 1y ago
This doesn't explain how rv is threatening rubygems in any way.
- KingOfCoders 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - phoronixrly 1y ago
    Oh, don't worry, I get what you and Rafael are trying to insinuate. I just want you to spell it out so that hopefully you see how stupid it sounds.
    - KingOfCoders 1y ago
      [flagged]
- x3n0ph3n3 1y ago
  They were using the name "rubygems" to fund-raise for not-"rubygems."
  - phoronixrly 1y ago
    But how is this a conflict? Both are not-for-profit projects with the same goal? How can one even use the term 'competition' in this context? What if the Ruby community embraces a new and better package manager? This is, again, a net win for the Ruby community, and both projects strive for that?
    - x3n0ph3n3 1y ago
      It doesn't really matter if it's a non-profit. How do you think your company would react if you started raising money using their name?
      - phoronixrly 1y ago
        Is Rubygems a company? My mind cannot comprehend why are people conflating not-for-profit open-source projects with for-profit companies... If Rubygems was a company, they'd have a trademark, they'd have patents, they'd have lawyers to protect the money they were making from their brand and product. But we are speaking about not-for-profit open-source projects, not for for-profit corporations!
        dismalaf 1y ago
        Ruby Central is a company that manages rubygems.org and rubygems. The maintainers who were locked out were being paid by Ruby Central while fundraising for their startup creating a competitor. Doesn't it seem like a bit of a security risk to you?
        krainboltgreene 1y ago
        No. (Disclaimer I got paid to work on rubygems and have been doing this for 18 years)