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I don't disagree with all that you said about analytical techniques and so on, but those are learning "how" not learning "what". It's not about learning the re
by BrenBarn 1y ago
I don't disagree with all that you said about analytical techniques and so on, but those are learning "how" not learning "what". It's not about learning the result of someone else's analysis, it's about learning to do the analysis. No doubt you'll need to study other people's analyses to see how they did them, but the point is not to learn their result but their process. This is reversed from something like learning physics where you are primarily learning the results of other people's discoveries (e.g., Newton) and understanding their process is secondary.
> For example digital humanities is a relatively new approach that was mostly enabled by the advent of statistics and computers. This unlocked a whole new suite of literary analysis techniques and perspectives, and these new techniques have actually furnished novel interpretations and second looks at previous works (a really concrete example, these techniques have been used to resolve questions of disputed or unclear authorship) just like technological innovations do the same in other sciences and research fields.
I'd say that concrete stuff like resolving authorship questions is not really the lion's share of digital humanities. And the key thing there is that there was an answer that was found. The mere fact that the field changes because of new techniques and "novel interpretations" doesn't get us very far. The question is whether such changes are an advance over previous research or simply a change. In scientific fields if a new theory is accepted it means the old theory is either enlarged or discarded; we either decide "we knew X was true, and now we know Y is also true" or we decide "we knew X was true but now we know it is false and actually Y is true". But "new interpretations" can just mean something like "some people think X and now some other people think Y", but without reference to any ground truth this doesn't represent forward progress.
I'll add that I agree that humanities courses are valuable and that society would benefit from more people taking them. I just don't think that focusing on the aspects of humanities that are slightly more scientific is a good way to justify that. Insofar as something like resolving authorships questions is concrete and measurable, it's because it's using scientific methodology. The humanities cannot beat science at its own game. I see the humanities as more valuable in how they provide a broader context and motivation for scientific and technical work. I don't think this is incompatible with what you said, it's just a matter of what gets the emphasis.
- bonoboTP 1y agoI see the humanities (I mean literature here and not so much history etc) as a continuation of cautionary tales and parables and fables and legends and fairy tales around the campfire. Its "output" is that you're better able to feel on a visceral level how others might feel or what the social outcome can be, or what the deep values of your society are etc. Literary analysis is twice removed from this. Ground level is how you act in a new situation. Once removed is the concrete stories you hear at the campfire. Twice removed is the dissecting analysis of the story and more meta levels. In physics the ground level is solving a new engineering problem in industry. You use the recipes and methods you learned in physics class to formulate your problem in the language of physics and solve it. Once removed is teaching the equations and methods themselves. Twice removed is discussing how the physics knowledge was produced historically and how research is done today. I do belive though that learning about the history of science is immensely enlightening. In school it seems like these things just fell from the sky fully formed like Athene from Zeus' forehead. Kuhn's book on the Copernican revolution is super interesting. I found it better than the more famous Structure of Scientific Revolutions. The latter is more abstract and tries to build a big theory, while the former mostly just narrates how it happened in the concrete case of Copernicus, Kepler et al.