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How’s that? Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking?
by lukevp 1y ago
How’s that? Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking?
- vbezhenar 1y agoIt is much more likely and cheaper, that US marines will desant and capture your backup facility, than someone would break AES-128.
- senko 1y agoSending troops would be an act of war, and definitely not cheap. Stealing some encryption keys, just another Wednesday.
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- VirusNewbie 1y agoYou mean like blowing up an oil pipeline? Accidents happen all the time. It is quite a lot cheaper to have an 'accident' happen to a data center than to break AES-256.
- lofaszvanitt 1y agoThere might be unknown unknowns....
- croes 1y agoThere are less public options to get the data without breaking encryption especially when the target uses MS software
- zaphirplane 1y agoNow I’m down the rabbit hole of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
- xoa 1y ago>Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking? WTF are you talking about? There are absolutely zero backdoors of any kind known to be in any standard open source encryption systems, and symmetric cryptography 256-bits or more is not subject to cracking by anyone or anything, not even if general purpose quantum computers are doable and prove scalable. Shor's algorithm applies to public-key not symmetric, where the best that can be done is Grover's quantum search for a square-root speed up. You seem to be crossing a number of streams here in your information.
- 100721 1y agoAs someone who’s fairly tech-literate but has a big blind spot in cryptography, I’d love to hear any suggestions you have for articles, blog posts, or smaller books on the topic! My (rudimentary, layman) understanding is that encryption is almost like a last line of defense and should never be assumed to be unbreakable. You sound both very knowledgeable on the topic, and very confident in the safety of modern encryption. I’m thinking maybe my understanding is obsolete!
- almostgotcaught 1y ago> My (rudimentary, layman) understanding is that encryption is almost like a last line of defense and should never be assumed to be unbreakable Lol this is woefully misinformed.
- solarengineer 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography It is my understanding that current encrypted content can someday be decrypted.
- Tempest1981 1y agoYep, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_now,_decrypt_later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_now,_decrypt_later
- DHolzer 1y agoPlease provide any proof or references to what you are claiming.
- zaran 1y agoCan you provide an example of a commonly used cryptography system that is known to be vulnerable to nation state cracking? As for backdoors, they may exist if you rely on a third party but it's pretty hard to backdoor the relatively simple algorithms used in cryptography
- roncesvalles 1y agoIt's not so much that there is a way to directly crack an encrypted file as much as there being backdoors in the entire HW and SW chain of you decrypting and accessing the encrypted file. Short of you copying an encrypted file from the server onto a local trusted Linux distro (with no Intel ME on the machine), airgapping yourself, entering the decryption passphrase from a piece of paper (written by hand, never printed), with no cameras in the room, accessing what you need, and then securely wiping the machine without un-airgapping, you will most likely be tripping through several CIA-backdoored things. Basically, the extreme level of digital OPSEC maintained by OBL is probably the bare minimum if your adversary is the state machinery of the United States or China.
- notpushkin 1y agoYeah, but also consider that maybe not every agency of South Korea needs this level of protection?
- southernplaces7 1y agoThis is a nation state in a state of perpetual tension, formal war and persistent attempts at sabotage by a notoriously paranoid and unscrupulous next-door enemy totalitarian/crime family state. SK should have no shortage of motive or much trouble (it's an extremely wealthy country with a very well-funded, sophisticated government apparatus) implementing its own version of hardcore data security for backups.
- lmm 1y ago> Can you provide an example of a commonly used cryptography system that is known to be vulnerable to nation state cracking? DES. Almost all pre-2014 standards-based cryptosystems due to NIST SP 800-90A. Probably all other popular ones too (like, if the NSA doesn't have backdoors to all the popular hardware random number generators then I don't know what they're even doing all day), but we only ever find out about that kind of thing 30 years down the line.