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IIRC this was made to solve a licensing issue with busybox (toybox being more permissive) and be included with Android. As a fan of copyleft, initially the idea

by opan 1y ago

IIRC this was made to solve a licensing issue with busybox (toybox being more permissive) and be included with Android. As a fan of copyleft, initially the idea annoyed me, but I eventually came to the conclusion that if it was the only way to include better tools in a particular OS out of the box, it was probably fine. I recall busybox being often used for gpl enforcement, so I wonder now how widespread toybox is by various companies hoping to avoid that. Do modern Smart TVs and such use it?

GalaxyNova 1y ago
I believe most smart TVs use Android as the base, so I would think yes.
- ChocolateGod 1y ago
  I think Samsung still use Tizen (still Linux, seems to use Toybox) and LG uses WebOS (Linux again, not sure if it uses Toybox).
  - 6SixTy 1y ago
    Just looked through my TV, webOS uses Busybox.
    - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
      please teach me how to do this, I have a webos lg tv which is literally not being used because my father used to watch youtube but then youtube almost stopped working on it and there are no more updates and I tried to root it but i couldn't and I just want to use it instead of it being a junk. Any guide on helping me prevent some e-waste at my home. I would prefer to have complete linux access of my lgtv and use something like tiny core linux on my webos tv or something, is something like this possible or?
      - planb 1y ago
        Try https://cani.rootmy.tv/ https://cani.rootmy.tv/
      - numpad0 1y ago
        Normally how you realize your TV runs busybox is by looking at the last parts of the manual, not by just casually sshing into it and running busybox --version.
        KlutzySofa 1y ago
        It is however a lot easier to SSH into it. root@lgwebostv:~# busybox BusyBox v1.29.2 (2024-06-12 00:33:13 UTC) multi-call binary.
      - BoredPositron 1y ago
        Use it with a setup box?
        Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
        my parents bought the "smart" tv a decade ago to switch away from setup box It was kinda expensive at the time, its wild of sorts how cheap of sorts TV's have become right now but still we bought it and its just e-waste right now. I am thinking of setting up a raspberry pi but I am more interested in learning the inner details or how to do things preferably without raspberry pi as well
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        It's not e-waste. Your ignorance for the easy solution makes it e-waste. There is nothing to learn from bad embedded systems.
dgl 1y ago
The license page and linked blog posts mentions this: https://landley.net/toybox/license.html https://landley.net/toybox/license.html I like the 0BSD license (see my https://©.st https://xn--gba.st), AWS also uses the semantically equivalent MIT-0 license for code samples, etc.
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by opan 1y ago

GalaxyNova 1y ago

I believe most smart TVs use Android as the base, so I would think yes.

ChocolateGod 1y ago
I think Samsung still use Tizen (still Linux, seems to use Toybox) and LG uses WebOS (Linux again, not sure if it uses Toybox).
- 6SixTy 1y ago
  Just looked through my TV, webOS uses Busybox.
  - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
    please teach me how to do this, I have a webos lg tv which is literally not being used because my father used to watch youtube but then youtube almost stopped working on it and there are no more updates and I tried to root it but i couldn't and I just want to use it instead of it being a junk. Any guide on helping me prevent some e-waste at my home. I would prefer to have complete linux access of my lgtv and use something like tiny core linux on my webos tv or something, is something like this possible or?
    - planb 1y ago
      Try https://cani.rootmy.tv/ https://cani.rootmy.tv/
    - numpad0 1y ago
      Normally how you realize your TV runs busybox is by looking at the last parts of the manual, not by just casually sshing into it and running busybox --version.
      - KlutzySofa 1y ago
        It is however a lot easier to SSH into it. root@lgwebostv:~# busybox BusyBox v1.29.2 (2024-06-12 00:33:13 UTC) multi-call binary.
    - BoredPositron 1y ago
      Use it with a setup box?
      - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
        my parents bought the "smart" tv a decade ago to switch away from setup box It was kinda expensive at the time, its wild of sorts how cheap of sorts TV's have become right now but still we bought it and its just e-waste right now. I am thinking of setting up a raspberry pi but I am more interested in learning the inner details or how to do things preferably without raspberry pi as well
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        It's not e-waste. Your ignorance for the easy solution makes it e-waste. There is nothing to learn from bad embedded systems.

dgl 1y ago

The license page and linked blog posts mentions this: https://landley.net/toybox/license.html https://landley.net/toybox/license.html I like the 0BSD license (see my https://©.st https://xn--gba.st), AWS also uses the semantically equivalent MIT-0 license for code samples, etc.

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