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> They didn't test U.S. models for U.S. bias. Only Chinese bias counts as a security risk, apparently US models have no bias sir /s
by gdevenyi 1y ago
> They didn't test U.S. models for U.S. bias. Only Chinese bias counts as a security risk, apparently
US models have no bias sir /s
- CamperBob2 1y agoHardly the same thing. Ask Gemini or OpenAI's models what happened on January 6, and they'll tell you. Ask DeepSeek what happened at Tiananmen Square and it won't, at least not without a lot of prompt hacking.
- lyu07282 1y agoAsk it if Israel is an apartheid state, that's a much better example.
- CamperBob2 1y agoGPT5: Short answer: it’s contested. Major human-rights bodies say yes; Israel and some legal scholars say no; no court has issued a binding judgment branding “Israel” an apartheid state, though a 2024 ICJ advisory opinion found Israel’s policies in the occupied territory breach CERD Article 3 on racial segregation/apartheid. (Skip several paragraphs with various citations) The term carries specific legal elements. Whether they are satisfied “state-wide” or only in parts of the OPT is the core dispute. Present consensus splits between leading NGOs/UN experts who say the elements are met and Israeli government–aligned and some academic voices who say they are not. No binding court ruling settles it yet. Do you have a problem with that? I don't.
- lyu07282 1y agoI better not poke that hornets nest any further, but yeah I made my point.
- CamperBob2 1y agoI better not poke that hornets nest any further, but yeah I made my point. Yes, I can certainly see why you wouldn't want to go any further with the conversation.
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- bongodongobob 1y agoTry MS Copilot. That shit will end the conversation if anything remotely political comes up.
- CamperBob2 1y agoAs long as it excludes politics in general, without overt partisan bias demanded by the government, what's the problem with that? If they want to focus on other subjects, they get to do that. Other models will provide answers where Copilot doesn't. Chinese models, conversely, are aligned with explicit, mandatory guardrails to exalt the CCP and socialism in general. Unless you count prohibitions against adult material, drugs, explosives and the like, that is simply not the case with US-based models. Whatever biases they exhibit (like the Grok example someone else posted) are there because that's what their private maintainers want.
- bongodongobob 1y agoBecause it's in the ruling class's favor for the populace to be uninformed.
- Bengalilol 1y agoAsk Grok to generate an image of bald Zelensky: it does execute. Ask Grok to generate an image of bald Trump: it goes on with an ocean of excuses on why the task is too hard.
- CamperBob2 1y agoI don't use Grok. Grok answers to someone with his own political biases and motives, many of which I personally disagree with. And that's OK, because nobody in the government forced him to set it up that way.
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- stordoff 1y agoFWIW, I can't reproduce this example - it generates both images fine: https://ibb.co/NdYx1R4p https://ibb.co/NdYx1R4p
- Bengalilol 1y agoI asked it in french a few days back and it went on explaining me how hard this would be. Thanks for the update. EDIT: I tried it right now and it did generate the image. I don't know what happened then...