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How would you feel being charged extra for a seat that permits short people to be safely transported?

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> safely transported? We’re talking about comfort, not safety. (I am struggling to find any reported injuries from reclining accidents.)
- collingreen 1y ago
  Focusing on this instead of the point (how would you feel if X happened to you instead) feels very corporate America. We're talking about safety, not comfort! They can survive on low oxygen under the plane so put some seats down there!
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Focusing on this instead of the point (how would you feel if X happened to you instead) I’m 6’. My partner is 6’ 7”. I’d prefer to not have to pay extra for more legroom. I’d also prefer to not pay for anything else in my life. Conflating safety and comfort in the context of an airline is incredibly disingenuous. I’m as safe as I’m miserable flying middle seat economy. I’m also in that position because I preferred to spend my dollars on something else.
- saltcured 1y ago
  Comfort crosses over into safety when it changes the odds of DVTs in the legs etc.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Comfort crosses over into safety when it changes the odds of DVTs Do we have any evidence this varies based on reclining and leg room relative to height? If so, you absolutely have a point, possibly legally under the ADA.
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- ranger_danger 1y ago
  My knees regularly get agonizingly crushed from reclining seats, enough that I have screamed. At one point it was so bad I even bought a device that prevents the seat in front from reclining, until they got banned. Also got a macbook pro screen crushed from a reclining seat once... nobody cared.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > My knees regularly get agonizingly crushed from reclining seats, enough that I have screamed Was there injury? Was your ability to exit in an emergency impaired? If so, there might be a safety issue. Being in non-injurious pain is uncomfortable and annoying and it sucks, but it's not fairly characterised as a safety issue any more than getting a neck crick from a lack of lay-flat seating counts as a safety issue.
raw_anon_1111 1y ago
By the end of the year, my wife and I will have flown over a dozen times - mostly domestic and short flights. I never pay for the cheapest seats nor do I fly budget airlines.
- kstrauser 1y ago
  Congratulations on your wealthy status. You do understand that not everyone can do that, as evidenced by the fact that airplanes have a very small number of extra-comfort seats compared to basic economy seating?
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    Not wealthy at all. We downsized from a big house in the burbs to a condo 1/3 the size in state tax free Florida, we have one relatively cheap car that was 2/3rd the median price of a new car in the US, and we churn credit cards for points and use a few other tricks.

> safely transported? We’re talking about comfort, not safety. (I am struggling to find any reported injuries from reclining accidents.)

collingreen 1y ago
Focusing on this instead of the point (how would you feel if X happened to you instead) feels very corporate America. We're talking about safety, not comfort! They can survive on low oxygen under the plane so put some seats down there!
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Focusing on this instead of the point (how would you feel if X happened to you instead) I’m 6’. My partner is 6’ 7”. I’d prefer to not have to pay extra for more legroom. I’d also prefer to not pay for anything else in my life. Conflating safety and comfort in the context of an airline is incredibly disingenuous. I’m as safe as I’m miserable flying middle seat economy. I’m also in that position because I preferred to spend my dollars on something else.
saltcured 1y ago
Comfort crosses over into safety when it changes the odds of DVTs in the legs etc.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Comfort crosses over into safety when it changes the odds of DVTs Do we have any evidence this varies based on reclining and leg room relative to height? If so, you absolutely have a point, possibly legally under the ADA.
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ranger_danger 1y ago
My knees regularly get agonizingly crushed from reclining seats, enough that I have screamed. At one point it was so bad I even bought a device that prevents the seat in front from reclining, until they got banned. Also got a macbook pro screen crushed from a reclining seat once... nobody cared.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > My knees regularly get agonizingly crushed from reclining seats, enough that I have screamed Was there injury? Was your ability to exit in an emergency impaired? If so, there might be a safety issue. Being in non-injurious pain is uncomfortable and annoying and it sucks, but it's not fairly characterised as a safety issue any more than getting a neck crick from a lack of lay-flat seating counts as a safety issue.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago

By the end of the year, my wife and I will have flown over a dozen times - mostly domestic and short flights. I never pay for the cheapest seats nor do I fly budget airlines.

kstrauser 1y ago
Congratulations on your wealthy status. You do understand that not everyone can do that, as evidenced by the fact that airplanes have a very small number of extra-comfort seats compared to basic economy seating?
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  Not wealthy at all. We downsized from a big house in the burbs to a condo 1/3 the size in state tax free Florida, we have one relatively cheap car that was 2/3rd the median price of a new car in the US, and we churn credit cards for points and use a few other tricks.