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Exactly. "It's good for you and takes some effort" is a bad growth strategy. For this movement to win, something will have to replace social media and walled ga

Exactly. "It's good for you and takes some effort" is a bad growth strategy. For this movement to win, something will have to replace social media and walled gardens with a better dopamine hit, that just happens to keep data private.

jbeninger 1y ago
I think we're still missing an "open social" closed social network. Something like old-Facebook where you can post to an intimate audience of friends and family, and your feed isn't stuffed full of ads and influencers. Just a little private windows into your friends' lives. That feels like something that could displace other social media in a way that's difficult for for-profit businesses to replicate since it goes against every product manager's instinct to leave engagement on the table, and would stand in stark contrast to the current social media landscape.
- ianopolous 1y ago
  You may like Peergos (creator here) https://peergos.org/posts/decentralized-social-media https://peergos.org/posts/decentralized-social-media
  - jbeninger 1y ago
    That looks really promising. It checks a lot of the boxes I already had in mind for such a system, like being able to continue a thread without exposing the whole thing to untrusted parties
    - ianopolous 1y ago
      Thanks! You can play around with it on https://peergos-demo.net https://peergos-demo.net
- carefulfungi 1y ago
  I wish I understood why people will pay for streaming tv subscriptions but not for social subscriptions. I suppose social subscriptions have to overcome network effects and a plethora of “free” alternatives - ranging from iMessage to facebook.
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    I think at least one take on this is that people see it as paying for the content of streaming subscriptions, not the streaming infrastructure itself. So the idea of paying for the infrastructure needed to see the content produced by your social network doesn't feel like a good deal.
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
I genuinely disagree. At this point, the only real way to make sure something like this stays worthwhile is when it is not 'super easy and convenient'. In other words, it has to take effort ( and obviously right now it does take effort and that effort ranks close to 'impossible' --- that should be pared down a bit ).

jbeninger 1y ago

I think we're still missing an "open social" closed social network. Something like old-Facebook where you can post to an intimate audience of friends and family, and your feed isn't stuffed full of ads and influencers. Just a little private windows into your friends' lives. That feels like something that could displace other social media in a way that's difficult for for-profit businesses to replicate since it goes against every product manager's instinct to leave engagement on the table, and would stand in stark contrast to the current social media landscape.

ianopolous 1y ago
You may like Peergos (creator here) https://peergos.org/posts/decentralized-social-media https://peergos.org/posts/decentralized-social-media
- jbeninger 1y ago
  That looks really promising. It checks a lot of the boxes I already had in mind for such a system, like being able to continue a thread without exposing the whole thing to untrusted parties
  - ianopolous 1y ago
    Thanks! You can play around with it on https://peergos-demo.net https://peergos-demo.net
carefulfungi 1y ago
I wish I understood why people will pay for streaming tv subscriptions but not for social subscriptions. I suppose social subscriptions have to overcome network effects and a plethora of “free” alternatives - ranging from iMessage to facebook.
- rkomorn 1y ago
  I think at least one take on this is that people see it as paying for the content of streaming subscriptions, not the streaming infrastructure itself. So the idea of paying for the infrastructure needed to see the content produced by your social network doesn't feel like a good deal.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago

I genuinely disagree. At this point, the only real way to make sure something like this stays worthwhile is when it is not 'super easy and convenient'. In other words, it has to take effort ( and obviously right now it does take effort and that effort ranks close to 'impossible' --- that should be pared down a bit ).