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Great, now the few insular successes of manufacturing in the U.S. will be trotted out as support for deranged economic policies :(.

bediger4000 1y ago
I can't decide if that's the same, or different from, trotting out the very few tariff-boosting economists in support of deranged economic policies.
mensetmanusman 1y ago
Tariffs are an inefficient tax on consumption. If the parties keep failing to agree to figure out how to increase revenue, this is the best stop gap we could hope for. Especially if it generates over $1T. https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/economy/us-tariff-rebate-checks-bessent https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/economy/us-tariff-rebate-chec...
- lovich 1y ago
  Why are you implying that the goal is to increase revenue? This admin also pushed for tax cuts simultaneously and the budget they passed added to the deficit again.
  - mensetmanusman 1y ago
    Tariffs at their current rate canceled the deficit added by the tax cuts according to experts.
    - lovich 1y ago
      What experts that are not part of this administration? He fired people who gave him numbers he didn’t like already like the head of BLS so I don’t trust any numbers self reported by them. And oh, is this also with that made up math they used to say that continuing the existing tax cuts past their expiration date didn’t count as increasing the deficit?
    - schainks 1y ago
      You're joking, right? Show me the money.
    - timerol 1y ago
      https://www.bestmoney.com/tax-relief/learn-more/how-trump-tax-plans-can-affect-you https://www.bestmoney.com/tax-relief/learn-more/how-trump-ta... is more of a personal finance website, but it reports (from the Tax Foundation), over a 10 year timeframe, a $3.8T total deficit increase over previous law. (CBO estimates are less favorable on deficit increases.) The same article estimates $2.1T in tariff revenue based on policy in early September. Seems closer to plugging half the gap than "cancelled"
    - actionfromafar 1y ago
      Yes, Trump got 17 trillion dollars. pinkie
    - johnnyanmac 1y ago
      Even if true (it's not) why are we giving tax breaks to billionaires to cancel out revenue instead of paying off our 29T deficit?
themafia 1y ago
The economy that you and I experience? Or just the economy that Wall Street experiences?

bediger4000 1y ago

I can't decide if that's the same, or different from, trotting out the very few tariff-boosting economists in support of deranged economic policies.

mensetmanusman 1y ago

Tariffs are an inefficient tax on consumption. If the parties keep failing to agree to figure out how to increase revenue, this is the best stop gap we could hope for. Especially if it generates over $1T. https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/economy/us-tariff-rebate-checks-bessent https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/economy/us-tariff-rebate-chec...

lovich 1y ago
Why are you implying that the goal is to increase revenue? This admin also pushed for tax cuts simultaneously and the budget they passed added to the deficit again.
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  Tariffs at their current rate canceled the deficit added by the tax cuts according to experts.
  - lovich 1y ago
    What experts that are not part of this administration? He fired people who gave him numbers he didn’t like already like the head of BLS so I don’t trust any numbers self reported by them. And oh, is this also with that made up math they used to say that continuing the existing tax cuts past their expiration date didn’t count as increasing the deficit?
  - schainks 1y ago
    You're joking, right? Show me the money.
  - timerol 1y ago
    https://www.bestmoney.com/tax-relief/learn-more/how-trump-tax-plans-can-affect-you https://www.bestmoney.com/tax-relief/learn-more/how-trump-ta... is more of a personal finance website, but it reports (from the Tax Foundation), over a 10 year timeframe, a $3.8T total deficit increase over previous law. (CBO estimates are less favorable on deficit increases.) The same article estimates $2.1T in tariff revenue based on policy in early September. Seems closer to plugging half the gap than "cancelled"
  - actionfromafar 1y ago
    Yes, Trump got 17 trillion dollars. pinkie
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    Even if true (it's not) why are we giving tax breaks to billionaires to cancel out revenue instead of paying off our 29T deficit?

themafia 1y ago

The economy that you and I experience? Or just the economy that Wall Street experiences?