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1Password used to ship native (aka "Mac-assed") apps. They (relatively, in the software's history) recently switched to Electron instead of continuing native ap

1Password used to ship native (aka "Mac-assed") apps. They (relatively, in the software's history) recently switched to Electron instead of continuing native app development.

crazygringo 1y ago
So again, how does an Electron bug become 1Password's fault? It's cross-platform and integrates with browsers so it makes sense they would want to use a cross-platform JavaScript solution as much as possible. Not just to make their developers more efficient, but to reduce the surface area for bugs and vulnerabilities.
- macintux 1y ago
  1Password used to be an excellent native app. It's not surprising that many users (myself included) resent the enshittification.
  - crazygringo 1y ago
    I've used it for years and am only finding out today that it's Electron. And I couldn't care less. 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. And whenever I have to edit an entry, it works fine.
    - aniviacat 1y ago
      > 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. If you don't (or barely) use the app, the app is not an issue to you; that seems pretty self-evident. The experience for regular users may differ.
      - crazygringo 1y ago
        What is the problem with it? And isn't everyone using the browser plugin anyways mostly? Isn't that where the vast majority of passwords get entered?
        macintux 1y ago
        Personally, I use it as much for other secrets as for browser passwords. Social security numbers, software licenses (not so much anymore), password reset questions, passwords I can't paste (for work), etc. I don't use a plugin. Never tried it, simply never mattered enough (and I generally store frequently-used browser passwords in the browser's keychain as well).
        crazygringo 1y ago
        Genuinely curious: why would you pay for 1Password but then use your browser's password manager? Now you have to keep track of updating passwords in two places? Or remembering which sites are stored in which password manager? That's breaking my brain.
  - zen928 1y ago
    You personally disliking something isnt enshittification.
    - macintux 1y ago
      It was done at roughly the same time that the company switched to a subscription model and their focus switched from consumer to business.
      - jen729w 1y ago
        ...shortly thereafter, Apple released their own Passwords app, largely Sherlocking 1Password from a consumer perspective. If this had been your business, what would you have done? I would have done exactly what they did.
        macintux 1y ago
        You raise an excellent point, and the truth is that I don't know. That doesn't change the consumer perspective: I'm paying more for a worse product.

1Password used to ship native (aka "Mac-assed") apps. They (relatively, in the software's history) recently switched to Electron instead of continuing native app development.

crazygringo 1y ago

So again, how does an Electron bug become 1Password's fault? It's cross-platform and integrates with browsers so it makes sense they would want to use a cross-platform JavaScript solution as much as possible. Not just to make their developers more efficient, but to reduce the surface area for bugs and vulnerabilities.

macintux 1y ago
1Password used to be an excellent native app. It's not surprising that many users (myself included) resent the enshittification.
- crazygringo 1y ago
  I've used it for years and am only finding out today that it's Electron. And I couldn't care less. 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. And whenever I have to edit an entry, it works fine.
  - aniviacat 1y ago
    > 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. If you don't (or barely) use the app, the app is not an issue to you; that seems pretty self-evident. The experience for regular users may differ.
    - crazygringo 1y ago
      What is the problem with it? And isn't everyone using the browser plugin anyways mostly? Isn't that where the vast majority of passwords get entered?
      - macintux 1y ago
        Personally, I use it as much for other secrets as for browser passwords. Social security numbers, software licenses (not so much anymore), password reset questions, passwords I can't paste (for work), etc. I don't use a plugin. Never tried it, simply never mattered enough (and I generally store frequently-used browser passwords in the browser's keychain as well).
        crazygringo 1y ago
        Genuinely curious: why would you pay for 1Password but then use your browser's password manager? Now you have to keep track of updating passwords in two places? Or remembering which sites are stored in which password manager? That's breaking my brain.
- zen928 1y ago
  You personally disliking something isnt enshittification.
  - macintux 1y ago
    It was done at roughly the same time that the company switched to a subscription model and their focus switched from consumer to business.
    - jen729w 1y ago
      ...shortly thereafter, Apple released their own Passwords app, largely Sherlocking 1Password from a consumer perspective. If this had been your business, what would you have done? I would have done exactly what they did.
      - macintux 1y ago
        You raise an excellent point, and the truth is that I don't know. That doesn't change the consumer perspective: I'm paying more for a worse product.