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1Password used to be good 10 years ago, but not anymore. A couple of days ago, there was a post about Electron based apps that slow down macOS Tahoe (due to old

1Password used to be good 10 years ago, but not anymore. A couple of days ago, there was a post about Electron based apps that slow down macOS Tahoe (due to older versions of Electron using an undocumented API). When I ran the script on my laptop, 1Password was on the top of the list. > 1Password.app: Electron 37.3.1 (Contents/Frameworks/Electron Framework.framework/Versions/A/Electron Framework) [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45437112 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45437112 Edit: Judging by the downvotes, it looks like there are a lot of electron lovers here. Why the hate for more efficient native apps? Are bloated binaries, janky UI and lower battery life, features? :)

daveoc64 1y ago
It's only on top of the list because it's likely to be first when you sort by app name.
zatertip 1y ago
The nightly version(on Linux) is on 38.2.0
Hawxy 1y ago
That's a 47 day old release and the fix for the macOS issue only came out 7 days ago. Not critically out of date by any means.
cedws 1y ago
How did you come to the conclusion that this very recent issue is 1Password’s fault and not Electron’s?
- oarsinsync 1y ago
  1Password used to ship native (aka "Mac-assed") apps. They (relatively, in the software's history) recently switched to Electron instead of continuing native app development.
  - crazygringo 1y ago
    So again, how does an Electron bug become 1Password's fault? It's cross-platform and integrates with browsers so it makes sense they would want to use a cross-platform JavaScript solution as much as possible. Not just to make their developers more efficient, but to reduce the surface area for bugs and vulnerabilities.
    - macintux 1y ago
      1Password used to be an excellent native app. It's not surprising that many users (myself included) resent the enshittification.
      - crazygringo 1y ago
        I've used it for years and am only finding out today that it's Electron. And I couldn't care less. 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. And whenever I have to edit an entry, it works fine.
        aniviacat 1y ago
        > 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. If you don't (or barely) use the app, the app is not an issue to you; that seems pretty self-evident. The experience for regular users may differ.
        crazygringo 1y ago
        What is the problem with it? And isn't everyone using the browser plugin anyways mostly? Isn't that where the vast majority of passwords get entered?
        macintux 1y ago
        Personally, I use it as much for other secrets as for browser passwords. Social security numbers, software licenses (not so much anymore), password reset questions, passwords I can't paste (for work), etc. I don't use a plugin. Never tried it, simply never mattered enough (and I generally store frequently-used browser passwords in the browser's keychain as well).
tredre3 1y ago
I guess you're being downvoted because you've just now realized that 1password is electron-based and you're using that discovery it to retro-actively confirm your pre-existing bias that electron = bad. If electron was actually always bad, you wouldn't need a script to scan your machine and tell you which apps to hate, you'd just know "yep that's slop" upon first opening the app. Yet that is not the case. Because electron is a tool, and it's sometimes used so well that you don't even notice it until you run a script.
- woadwarrior01 1y ago
  It used to be a native app.

daveoc64 1y ago

It's only on top of the list because it's likely to be first when you sort by app name.

zatertip 1y ago

The nightly version(on Linux) is on 38.2.0

Hawxy 1y ago

That's a 47 day old release and the fix for the macOS issue only came out 7 days ago. Not critically out of date by any means.

cedws 1y ago

How did you come to the conclusion that this very recent issue is 1Password’s fault and not Electron’s?

oarsinsync 1y ago
1Password used to ship native (aka "Mac-assed") apps. They (relatively, in the software's history) recently switched to Electron instead of continuing native app development.
- crazygringo 1y ago
  So again, how does an Electron bug become 1Password's fault? It's cross-platform and integrates with browsers so it makes sense they would want to use a cross-platform JavaScript solution as much as possible. Not just to make their developers more efficient, but to reduce the surface area for bugs and vulnerabilities.
  - macintux 1y ago
    1Password used to be an excellent native app. It's not surprising that many users (myself included) resent the enshittification.
    - crazygringo 1y ago
      I've used it for years and am only finding out today that it's Electron. And I couldn't care less. 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. And whenever I have to edit an entry, it works fine.
      - aniviacat 1y ago
        > 99.9% of my usage is within the browser plugin anyways. If you don't (or barely) use the app, the app is not an issue to you; that seems pretty self-evident. The experience for regular users may differ.
        crazygringo 1y ago
        What is the problem with it? And isn't everyone using the browser plugin anyways mostly? Isn't that where the vast majority of passwords get entered?
        macintux 1y ago
        Personally, I use it as much for other secrets as for browser passwords. Social security numbers, software licenses (not so much anymore), password reset questions, passwords I can't paste (for work), etc. I don't use a plugin. Never tried it, simply never mattered enough (and I generally store frequently-used browser passwords in the browser's keychain as well).

tredre3 1y ago

I guess you're being downvoted because you've just now realized that 1password is electron-based and you're using that discovery it to retro-actively confirm your pre-existing bias that electron = bad. If electron was actually always bad, you wouldn't need a script to scan your machine and tell you which apps to hate, you'd just know "yep that's slop" upon first opening the app. Yet that is not the case. Because electron is a tool, and it's sometimes used so well that you don't even notice it until you run a script.

woadwarrior01 1y ago
It used to be a native app.