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> nobody has ADP turned on This isn't the type of question I normally ask people, so it sounds like you've made a bad guess here and are treating your own assu

> nobody has ADP turned on This isn't the type of question I normally ask people, so it sounds like you've made a bad guess here and are treating your own assumption as fact. You are incorrect; I have ADP turned on. > Apple provides the data to the Five Eyes without a warrant. Source? Or are you assuming here, too? > The fact that ADP is offered as an option is irrelevant. Only if you think no one uses it.

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andrewmcwatters 1y ago
Don’t be glib. Of all Apple device users, those who have ADP enabled are almost certainly a rounding error.
- leakycap 1y ago
  > Don't be glib followed by > almost certainly with zero links. Sure, I'll take your word for it.
  - andrewmcwatters 1y ago
    Do you really think that most users enable such a feature? Do you think everyone compiles their own Linux kernel, and port forwards for their own Minecraft server, too? No, it’s a feature tucked away in Settings where small, small percentages of users are going to use it. It’s great that it exists, but let’s listen to life experience. You don’t need to retort “Source! Source!” for things like this. Be our guest, ask everyone in your life and keep a tally.
    - schrodinger 1y ago
      I've got it on. I don't take any other extensive means to protect my security but this was very easy and felt worth it given the honeypot of info living in my phone. There may, in fact, be dozens of us.
    - leakycap 1y ago
      > Do you really think that most users enable such a feature? No one is claiming most people use it. You are claiming no one or essentially no one uses it, which is untrue. > but let’s listen to life experience Your life experience is apparently that you don't use ADP, so therefore no one uses ADP. This is not a useful data point. > You don’t need to retort “Source! Source!” So... you don't have a source? > Be our guest, ask everyone in your life and keep a tally. As I stated in my first response to you, it isn't a question most people ask so I'm not sure why you'd think a few comments later my take on this would change.
- junto 1y ago
  Once you turn it on, you can only see your files and photos on other trusted Apple devices. So anyone that has a Windows machine that has iCloud sync to their machine can’t use it.
sneak 1y ago
On warrantless access: Apple’s own transparency report says they turn over data on roughly 100k users per year to US government without a warrant. ADP adoption: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/12/05/icloud-advanced-data-protection-uptake-amongst-df-readers https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/12/05/icloud-advanced...

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andrewmcwatters 1y ago

Don’t be glib. Of all Apple device users, those who have ADP enabled are almost certainly a rounding error.

leakycap 1y ago
> Don't be glib followed by > almost certainly with zero links. Sure, I'll take your word for it.
- andrewmcwatters 1y ago
  Do you really think that most users enable such a feature? Do you think everyone compiles their own Linux kernel, and port forwards for their own Minecraft server, too? No, it’s a feature tucked away in Settings where small, small percentages of users are going to use it. It’s great that it exists, but let’s listen to life experience. You don’t need to retort “Source! Source!” for things like this. Be our guest, ask everyone in your life and keep a tally.
  - schrodinger 1y ago
    I've got it on. I don't take any other extensive means to protect my security but this was very easy and felt worth it given the honeypot of info living in my phone. There may, in fact, be dozens of us.
  - leakycap 1y ago
    > Do you really think that most users enable such a feature? No one is claiming most people use it. You are claiming no one or essentially no one uses it, which is untrue. > but let’s listen to life experience Your life experience is apparently that you don't use ADP, so therefore no one uses ADP. This is not a useful data point. > You don’t need to retort “Source! Source!” So... you don't have a source? > Be our guest, ask everyone in your life and keep a tally. As I stated in my first response to you, it isn't a question most people ask so I'm not sure why you'd think a few comments later my take on this would change.
junto 1y ago
Once you turn it on, you can only see your files and photos on other trusted Apple devices. So anyone that has a Windows machine that has iCloud sync to their machine can’t use it.

sneak 1y ago

On warrantless access: Apple’s own transparency report says they turn over data on roughly 100k users per year to US government without a warrant. ADP adoption: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/12/05/icloud-advanced-data-protection-uptake-amongst-df-readers https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/12/05/icloud-advanced...