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> It is not realistic - we are consuming way more than any of the previous generations That's not true. At least not true on all metrics. Energy consumption is

> It is not realistic - we are consuming way more than any of the previous generations That's not true. At least not true on all metrics. Energy consumption is down on 30 years ago, for example. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.ELEC.KH.PC?locations=US https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.ELEC.KH.PC?locat... Mat and protein consumption peaked around 20 years ago too. > Poverty is at an all time low and steeply dropped since the last century. We are curing diseases, people are living long. What's the pessimism about? It's not pessimism, it's reality. The ruling class are demanding we reduce consumption while increasing and flaunting theirs. That's just what is. If you're denying that or think it's pessimism I really don't know what to tell you.

simianwords 1y ago
> That's not true. At least not true on all metrics. Energy consumption is down on 30 years ago, for example. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.ELEC.KH.PC?locat https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.ELEC.KH.PC?locat... That's because of efficiency gains. Easily explained by the fact that consumption over all other products increased. >Mat and protein consumption peaked around 20 years ago too. Meat consumption is not a realiable indicator of anything in developed countries. It is the same in Netherlands as well. But increased dramatically in India and develping countries. >It's not pessimism, it's reality. The ruling class are demanding we reduce consumption while increasing and flaunting theirs. That's just what is. If you're denying that or think it's pessimism I really don't know what to tell you. What's the proof that we reduced consumption? Without cherrypicking?