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It was an illegal app designed to aid in illegal interference with law enforcement. It is unsurprising for it to get removed, as companies must follow the law.

by snvzz 1y ago

dragonwriter 1y ago
It is not illegal to notice actions of government agents in public or to report them to others; it was a legal app designed to facility activity protected by the First Amendemnt.
cooperq 1y ago
it is actually not illegal at all to report on the locations of law enforcement. This is, in fact, protected speech.
idiotsecant 1y ago
A) it's not illegal, as evidenced by the fact that not a single person has been prosecuted. There is no law being broken, just the feel-feels of the surveillance state getting hurt. B) Even if there was a law, its the duty of every American to disobey unjust laws. The government serves at the pleasure of the people, not the other way around. There are a lot of people getting awfully comfortable with weak men ordering other jack booted weak men to systematically tear down what actually makes America great. I thought we settled this last time, but maybe we need to revisit the issue.
- trimethylpurine 1y ago
  >"it's the duty of every American to disobey unjust laws..." Is this what universities are teaching? Where did you get this from, honestly? This is a terrible assertion. The subjectivity of what is just or unjust would lead to overwhelming violent lawlessness if this were true. Thankfully, we have no such duty. Please, stand up for what you believe is right within the legal framework. This is a largely just society, by comparison. Maybe travel a bit to see what an unjust society looks like. Weigh your options, at least, before resorting to criminality as a lifestyle choice.
  - LexiMax 1y ago
    Being law abiding in a society run by lawless and violent thugs isn't contributing to a social fabric. It is a survival mechanism at best.
    - trimethylpurine 1y ago
      The fact of their being lawless would preclude the argument. If the government is lawless then by definition they are not law enforcing. Not a government. I don't see that remotely fitting the United States as a generalization. I would argue that if you do, you are either poorly traveled, or fanatical. I would hope it's the prior, for everyone's sake. Try hailing a cab at midnight in the middle of Mexico before declaring the US to be ultimately lawless. Maybe don't actually try that. Regardless if you find the government to be so unjust as to convince you to break laws and become violent, you belong in prison and the majority of people will help to put you there, make no mistake. Regardless of leadership, I highly value that about the US. I hope you'll change your mind before that happens.
      - LexiMax 1y ago
        > Try hailing a cab at midnight in the middle of Mexico before declaring the US to be ultimately lawless. I've been to Portland, does that count? > I hope you'll change your mind before that happens. I don't think you do. I think that you fantasize about throwing your political opponents in prison, and uttering a veiled threat cloaked in empathetic language makes you feel powerful and clever. In any case, I'm not sure what you took away from my response, but survival isn't a bad thing - at least not for the individual. It's clarifying, putting one in the proper mindset from collaborative to transactional and opportunistic. Of course, systemic myopia and brain drain can hurt an organization worse than any direct action could ever aspire to, but organizations run by violent thugs aren't known for known for advancement based on competence as opposed to loyalty.
        trimethylpurine 1y ago
        No. Travel to Mexico, or Africa, or other such places if you want to see what lawlessness does to society. >I think that you fantasize about throwing your political opponents in prison That's a xenophobic and false assumption. It's illegal to imprison your political opponents. I just said don't break the law, right? Do you want to put people who disagree with you in prison? It's perfectly legal to make a political statement in the US. It's illegal to harm people and property. Don't conflate those.

It was an illegal app designed to aid in illegal interference with law enforcement. It is unsurprising for it to get removed, as companies must follow the law.

by snvzz 1y ago

It was an illegal app designed to aid in illegal interference with law enforcement. It is unsurprising for it to get removed, as companies must follow the law.

dragonwriter 1y ago

It is not illegal to notice actions of government agents in public or to report them to others; it was a legal app designed to facility activity protected by the First Amendemnt.

cooperq 1y ago

it is actually not illegal at all to report on the locations of law enforcement. This is, in fact, protected speech.

idiotsecant 1y ago

A) it's not illegal, as evidenced by the fact that not a single person has been prosecuted. There is no law being broken, just the feel-feels of the surveillance state getting hurt. B) Even if there was a law, its the duty of every American to disobey unjust laws. The government serves at the pleasure of the people, not the other way around. There are a lot of people getting awfully comfortable with weak men ordering other jack booted weak men to systematically tear down what actually makes America great. I thought we settled this last time, but maybe we need to revisit the issue.

trimethylpurine 1y ago
>"it's the duty of every American to disobey unjust laws..." Is this what universities are teaching? Where did you get this from, honestly? This is a terrible assertion. The subjectivity of what is just or unjust would lead to overwhelming violent lawlessness if this were true. Thankfully, we have no such duty. Please, stand up for what you believe is right within the legal framework. This is a largely just society, by comparison. Maybe travel a bit to see what an unjust society looks like. Weigh your options, at least, before resorting to criminality as a lifestyle choice.
- LexiMax 1y ago
  Being law abiding in a society run by lawless and violent thugs isn't contributing to a social fabric. It is a survival mechanism at best.
  - trimethylpurine 1y ago
    The fact of their being lawless would preclude the argument. If the government is lawless then by definition they are not law enforcing. Not a government. I don't see that remotely fitting the United States as a generalization. I would argue that if you do, you are either poorly traveled, or fanatical. I would hope it's the prior, for everyone's sake. Try hailing a cab at midnight in the middle of Mexico before declaring the US to be ultimately lawless. Maybe don't actually try that. Regardless if you find the government to be so unjust as to convince you to break laws and become violent, you belong in prison and the majority of people will help to put you there, make no mistake. Regardless of leadership, I highly value that about the US. I hope you'll change your mind before that happens.
    - LexiMax 1y ago
      > Try hailing a cab at midnight in the middle of Mexico before declaring the US to be ultimately lawless. I've been to Portland, does that count? > I hope you'll change your mind before that happens. I don't think you do. I think that you fantasize about throwing your political opponents in prison, and uttering a veiled threat cloaked in empathetic language makes you feel powerful and clever. In any case, I'm not sure what you took away from my response, but survival isn't a bad thing - at least not for the individual. It's clarifying, putting one in the proper mindset from collaborative to transactional and opportunistic. Of course, systemic myopia and brain drain can hurt an organization worse than any direct action could ever aspire to, but organizations run by violent thugs aren't known for known for advancement based on competence as opposed to loyalty.
      - trimethylpurine 1y ago
        No. Travel to Mexico, or Africa, or other such places if you want to see what lawlessness does to society. >I think that you fantasize about throwing your political opponents in prison That's a xenophobic and false assumption. It's illegal to imprison your political opponents. I just said don't break the law, right? Do you want to put people who disagree with you in prison? It's perfectly legal to make a political statement in the US. It's illegal to harm people and property. Don't conflate those.