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>SF tried, didn't work. The homeless population increased, not offset by the people who got housed. IIRC, For decades, the homeless "relief" programs run by st

>SF tried, didn't work. The homeless population increased, not offset by the people who got housed. IIRC, For decades, the homeless "relief" programs run by states like Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and others pretty much ended at bus tickets to San Francisco for the homeless (whether they wanted to go or not) and that's it. Is it any wonder the population of homeless in SF grew?

mullingitover 1y ago
This is a popular myth but it’s not true. The reality is a lot more complicated[1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/...
- nobody9999 1y ago
  >The reality is a lot more complicated Reality is always more complicated than a one-liner. Surprise, surprise. But that doesn't make it a "myth." Rather it's more municipalities and more disposable people being "disposed" of. That doesn't make it right and certainly shouldn't normalize such practices -- that said, it's a little late now.
  - mullingitover 1y ago
    > But that doesn't make it a "myth." It does, though, and the article I linked explains what actually happens: people are not systematically shipped to any particular big west coast city. There are numerous programs in numerous cities which send people back home, essentially, to places where they have support in place and simply need a way to get there.
    - nobody9999 1y ago
      >It does, though, and the article I linked explains what actually happens: And I disagree with your analysis. That's not an attack on you or The Guardian for that matter. While there certainly are programs as you mention, there are (and have been for decades) others that do not seek to reunite people with support systems -- rather they just want those pesky homeless people gone. Out of sight, out of mind and all that.
      - mullingitover 1y ago
        > there are (and have been for decades) others that do not seek to reunite people with support systems I'll point out that this is a myth as many time as you repeat it until you cite some source to back up the assertion. And what I cited is not my analysis, it's a reputable publication that did actual investigative journalism.

mullingitover 1y ago

This is a popular myth but it’s not true. The reality is a lot more complicated[1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/...

nobody9999 1y ago
>The reality is a lot more complicated Reality is always more complicated than a one-liner. Surprise, surprise. But that doesn't make it a "myth." Rather it's more municipalities and more disposable people being "disposed" of. That doesn't make it right and certainly shouldn't normalize such practices -- that said, it's a little late now.
- mullingitover 1y ago
  > But that doesn't make it a "myth." It does, though, and the article I linked explains what actually happens: people are not systematically shipped to any particular big west coast city. There are numerous programs in numerous cities which send people back home, essentially, to places where they have support in place and simply need a way to get there.
  - nobody9999 1y ago
    >It does, though, and the article I linked explains what actually happens: And I disagree with your analysis. That's not an attack on you or The Guardian for that matter. While there certainly are programs as you mention, there are (and have been for decades) others that do not seek to reunite people with support systems -- rather they just want those pesky homeless people gone. Out of sight, out of mind and all that.
    - mullingitover 1y ago
      > there are (and have been for decades) others that do not seek to reunite people with support systems I'll point out that this is a myth as many time as you repeat it until you cite some source to back up the assertion. And what I cited is not my analysis, it's a reputable publication that did actual investigative journalism.