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But google and amazon were obvious to those in the know, in terms of what they delivered. S Jobs called it back in 1995-97 - he referred to it as shopping for

But google and amazon were obvious to those in the know, in terms of what they delivered. S Jobs called it back in 1995-97 - he referred to it as shopping for information and shopping for good and services. Nobody has this crystal clear, tangible vision re. LLMs. Nobody at all. That is a big problem. I found the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSfFcaluHc&t=1700s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSfFcaluHc&t=1700s

yeasku 1y ago
Personally I never tougth of Google as a dotcom era company. Most of those were landing pages with news and chat rooms. It was more of web 2.0 company.
- mkl 1y ago
  It was founded 1998, very much dotcom era, and had no significant web 2.0 products for years after that.
  - yeasku 1y ago
    And the term 2.0 was coined in 1999.
    - mkl 1y ago
      Right, but the term and the concept didn't really take off until years later. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0: > The term "Web 2.0" was coined by Darcy DiNucci, an information architecture consultant, in her January 1999 article "Fragmented Future" [...] her "2.0" designation refers to the next version of the Web that does not directly relate to the term's current use. > The term Web 2.0 did not resurface until 2002. Google's first big Web 2.0 products were GMail (beta launched in 2004, just before Google's IPO) and Google Maps (2005).
  - fzzzy 1y ago
    Gmail and Google Maps were prototypical 2.0.
    - mkl 1y ago
      Gmail's beta started in 2004, and Google Maps launched in 2005. Google's IPO was in 2004, so Web 2.0 products played no part in its enormous early growth.
      - yeasku 1y ago
        Gmail had a fundamental part in Googles IPO.
iLoveOncall 1y ago
Because LLMs are a technology, not a business. Ultimately it doesn't matter who survives the AI bubble, because they are all more or less equivalent, proposing the same technical solution.

yeasku 1y ago

Personally I never tougth of Google as a dotcom era company. Most of those were landing pages with news and chat rooms. It was more of web 2.0 company.

mkl 1y ago
It was founded 1998, very much dotcom era, and had no significant web 2.0 products for years after that.
- yeasku 1y ago
  And the term 2.0 was coined in 1999.
  - mkl 1y ago
    Right, but the term and the concept didn't really take off until years later. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0: > The term "Web 2.0" was coined by Darcy DiNucci, an information architecture consultant, in her January 1999 article "Fragmented Future" [...] her "2.0" designation refers to the next version of the Web that does not directly relate to the term's current use. > The term Web 2.0 did not resurface until 2002. Google's first big Web 2.0 products were GMail (beta launched in 2004, just before Google's IPO) and Google Maps (2005).
- fzzzy 1y ago
  Gmail and Google Maps were prototypical 2.0.
  - mkl 1y ago
    Gmail's beta started in 2004, and Google Maps launched in 2005. Google's IPO was in 2004, so Web 2.0 products played no part in its enormous early growth.
    - yeasku 1y ago
      Gmail had a fundamental part in Googles IPO.

iLoveOncall 1y ago

Because LLMs are a technology, not a business. Ultimately it doesn't matter who survives the AI bubble, because they are all more or less equivalent, proposing the same technical solution.