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> Otherwise, PGP might become cool People need convenient access to PGP. If their App Store removes all PGP apps then they might have to upload their privateke

> Otherwise, PGP might become cool People need convenient access to PGP. If their App Store removes all PGP apps then they might have to upload their privatekey to a PWA. And then no one's any better off. If the everyman is forced to choose between being surveilled or using PGP, I reckon I know what he'd choose regardless.

reorder9695 1y ago
There's no reason email clients can't make PGP keys easy, proton actually makes it quite easy to add a PGP key for an email address.
- dwedge 1y ago
  Does Proton allow you to use any email client? Last I checked IMAP and SMTP is disabled and you're captive in their webmail or official client unless you pay for their bridge software. Which makes this post ironic https://proton.me/blog/what-is-an-email-client https://proton.me/blog/what-is-an-email-client
  - cwbriscoe 1y ago
    I use Thunderbird to access my Proton Mail. They have an app called Proton Mail Bridge that allows you to access it via IMAP or SMTP. https://proton.me/mail/bridge https://proton.me/mail/bridge Edit: Missed the paid part in you message. Yeah, I have a paid account.
- Telemakhos 1y ago
  Nobody ever talks about S/MIME, but it's the corporate version of PGP/GPG for mail. Apple made it dead easy to use S/MIME encryption. Most vendors do, because it's still a requirement for some government purchasing (DoD is moving away from it). I was honestly and pleasantly surprised how easy it was to use S/MIME with the built-in mail programs on macOS and iOS/iPadOS, and I'm a bit surprised that Apple didn't just automate an S/MIME key for every iCloud mail user.
  - whatshisface 1y ago
    What's the new standard that the DoD requires for secure communication with contractors?
- roywiggins 1y ago
  There's no reason Chat Control can't mandate scanning in email apps, either.
- mr_mitm 1y ago
  And what's stopping the government from forcing proton to hand over private keys or else?
udev4096 1y ago
https://autocrypt.org https://autocrypt.org

reorder9695 1y ago

There's no reason email clients can't make PGP keys easy, proton actually makes it quite easy to add a PGP key for an email address.

dwedge 1y ago
Does Proton allow you to use any email client? Last I checked IMAP and SMTP is disabled and you're captive in their webmail or official client unless you pay for their bridge software. Which makes this post ironic https://proton.me/blog/what-is-an-email-client https://proton.me/blog/what-is-an-email-client
- cwbriscoe 1y ago
  I use Thunderbird to access my Proton Mail. They have an app called Proton Mail Bridge that allows you to access it via IMAP or SMTP. https://proton.me/mail/bridge https://proton.me/mail/bridge Edit: Missed the paid part in you message. Yeah, I have a paid account.
Telemakhos 1y ago
Nobody ever talks about S/MIME, but it's the corporate version of PGP/GPG for mail. Apple made it dead easy to use S/MIME encryption. Most vendors do, because it's still a requirement for some government purchasing (DoD is moving away from it). I was honestly and pleasantly surprised how easy it was to use S/MIME with the built-in mail programs on macOS and iOS/iPadOS, and I'm a bit surprised that Apple didn't just automate an S/MIME key for every iCloud mail user.
- whatshisface 1y ago
  What's the new standard that the DoD requires for secure communication with contractors?
roywiggins 1y ago
There's no reason Chat Control can't mandate scanning in email apps, either.
mr_mitm 1y ago
And what's stopping the government from forcing proton to hand over private keys or else?

udev4096 1y ago

https://autocrypt.org https://autocrypt.org