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Did you read this methodically written and sourced post? It is most certainly NOT calling "anyone having doubts" a "racist". It is calling one particular pers

Did you read this methodically written and sourced post? It is most certainly NOT calling "anyone having doubts" a "racist". It is calling one particular person's astonishingly racist post as exactly what it is.

tim333 1y ago
I read the DHH "As I remember London" post and don't find it astonishingly racist. I guess you are referring to that? Which line is astonishing? I think jakelazaroff twists things rather - I'm after something DHH actually wrote.
- archagon 1y ago
  What, the post where DHH implies that brown immigrants are rapists and criminals and that Britain is being invaded and needs to be cleansed? The one that paints five-time convicted criminal and fascist Tommy Fucking Robinson as some sort of folk hero? That man is a post away from shrieking about remigration for non-whites, just like many of his new-found allies already do.
  - tim333 1y ago
    Indeed that on which does not contain the words "brown", "rapists", "criminals", "invaded" or "cleansed" and does not say Robinson is a folk hero. As I said - I'm after something DHH actually wrote.
    - jaredcwhite 1y ago
      You are doing exactly what happens repeatedly in these sorts of conversations. You completely ignore all subtext, all historical context, all conclusion, all metatextual reading in favor of exact out-of-context literal wordings which you claim will convince you of the case. That is not what will happen, but of course you know that already. No xenophobic racist with an ounce of sense is going to write something like "brown people are rapist criminals who have invaded our lands and must be cleansed". It's absurd to maintain we must provide that as proof or it didn't happen.
      - archagon 1y ago
        I hate that people will read this comment and file it away as “woke” or whatever. No, it’s basic reading comprehension FFS. English 101.
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      - tim333 1y ago
        I just feel if you are going to call someone otherwise respected like DHH astonishingly racist it's basic decency to be able to quote one sentence where he is. I'm quite good at reading subtext and to me it reads like DHH: "They're still reeling from the Pakistani rape gangs"... critics: "he's saying he hates brown people". No he didn't. That's what let the rapes go on for years - that if you prosecuted rape you'd be called a racist who went after brown people. The whole thing reminds me of Hillary's calling Americans deplorable so as to stop Donald Trump. Didn't that work out well?
        lazyatom 1y ago
        A direct thing he wrote is "Britain should be a kingdom primarily for the Brits", where previously he has unambigiously defined "Brits" and "native Brits" as "white British people". That's racist.
        tim333 1y ago
        The quote in the London post is >There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese. with no mention of Brits being defined as "white British people". I'm not sure the source for the Brits=white thing?
        jakelazaroff 1y ago
        The source is DHH himself. There is no other possible good faith interpretation of "about a third" "native Brits" based on the Wikipedia article he himself cited. I show this in the post: https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thought/#native-brits https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...

tim333 1y ago

I read the DHH "As I remember London" post and don't find it astonishingly racist. I guess you are referring to that? Which line is astonishing? I think jakelazaroff twists things rather - I'm after something DHH actually wrote.

archagon 1y ago
What, the post where DHH implies that brown immigrants are rapists and criminals and that Britain is being invaded and needs to be cleansed? The one that paints five-time convicted criminal and fascist Tommy Fucking Robinson as some sort of folk hero? That man is a post away from shrieking about remigration for non-whites, just like many of his new-found allies already do.
- tim333 1y ago
  Indeed that on which does not contain the words "brown", "rapists", "criminals", "invaded" or "cleansed" and does not say Robinson is a folk hero. As I said - I'm after something DHH actually wrote.
  - jaredcwhite 1y ago
    You are doing exactly what happens repeatedly in these sorts of conversations. You completely ignore all subtext, all historical context, all conclusion, all metatextual reading in favor of exact out-of-context literal wordings which you claim will convince you of the case. That is not what will happen, but of course you know that already. No xenophobic racist with an ounce of sense is going to write something like "brown people are rapist criminals who have invaded our lands and must be cleansed". It's absurd to maintain we must provide that as proof or it didn't happen.
    - archagon 1y ago
      I hate that people will read this comment and file it away as “woke” or whatever. No, it’s basic reading comprehension FFS. English 101.
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    - tim333 1y ago
      I just feel if you are going to call someone otherwise respected like DHH astonishingly racist it's basic decency to be able to quote one sentence where he is. I'm quite good at reading subtext and to me it reads like DHH: "They're still reeling from the Pakistani rape gangs"... critics: "he's saying he hates brown people". No he didn't. That's what let the rapes go on for years - that if you prosecuted rape you'd be called a racist who went after brown people. The whole thing reminds me of Hillary's calling Americans deplorable so as to stop Donald Trump. Didn't that work out well?
      - lazyatom 1y ago
        A direct thing he wrote is "Britain should be a kingdom primarily for the Brits", where previously he has unambigiously defined "Brits" and "native Brits" as "white British people". That's racist.
        tim333 1y ago
        The quote in the London post is >There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese. with no mention of Brits being defined as "white British people". I'm not sure the source for the Brits=white thing?
        jakelazaroff 1y ago
        The source is DHH himself. There is no other possible good faith interpretation of "about a third" "native Brits" based on the Wikipedia article he himself cited. I show this in the post: https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thought/#native-brits https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...