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I've seen Niri floating around the conversation, but still find myself drawn to Hyprland. There's something about "pagination" vs a scrollable compositor that m

I've seen Niri floating around the conversation, but still find myself drawn to Hyprland. There's something about "pagination" vs a scrollable compositor that makes things feel much more targeted and organized. I use Omarchy, btw.

antonyh 1y ago
I avoid anything to do with DHH for his views expressed on his blog. I'm sure Omarchy is nice and all, but there are other choices without the ethical baggage.
- aeon_ai 1y ago
  I'm familiar with DHH's opinions -- Can you elaborate on how there are ethical implications/baggage associated with using FOSS? Must we leave the vicinity of people we don't always agree with?
  - antonyh 1y ago
    It's not the FOSS, it's the distribution. As far as I can tell everything in that distro is available elsewhere.
  - exasperaited 1y ago
    I am relaxed about the small potential downsides of not being in the vicinity of people who lionize Tommy Robinson.
    - dismalaf 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - exasperaited 1y ago
        > Right now there's pro "Palestinian" "protests" on the streets of the UK celebrating the murder of 2 Jews in Manchester... That is a _disgraceful_ misrepresentation of the facts. So much so that it renders replying to any part of your point completely impossible.
        dismalaf 1y ago
        https://x.com/SFaeze_Alavi/status/1973812507346416121?t=FotrBL_dvfi4YH_m9VMG8Q&s=19 https://x.com/SFaeze_Alavi/status/1973812507346416121?t=Fotr...
        exasperaited 1y ago
        That is an organised, scheduled protest in London, about longstanding actions in Gaza. Why should it stop, particularly? You (with the person who tweeted) are misrepresenting both this protest and the opinions of the people who are protesting.
        dismalaf 1y ago
        People on the ground at many of these protests are saying that enough people are celebrating the attack. In London they were attacking the police. What % need to support the attack before it's a problem?
        fwip 1y ago
        A higher % than "some people who hate the protesters say they definitely heard it happening."
    - aeon_ai 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - exasperaited 1y ago
        This article is a far right tone poem; that it mentions Tommy Robinson at all without any qualification, and links to the "FreedomMarch" hash tag is enough to qualify. Shame on DHH for eliding who Tommy Robinson really is -- a football hooligan and violent thug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson#Criminal_offences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson#Criminal_offenc... DHH knows nothing of London, and the hugely-ironic idea that it's too full of "non-native" British people for him -- a white foreigner -- to feel comfortable moving there is the purest sign of who he is.
- gcoguiec 1y ago
  Am I the only one that reads it as "I use monarchy, btw"?
peyloride 1y ago
If I'm not mistaken, you can have the same workflow with niri. You don't need to use "scrollable" feature of Niri, you can attach screens to workspaces. I was a former Hyprland user but after I switch to Niri I didn't look back because I think it's kind of having best of two worlds. In my workflow, I have browser on workspace 1, code editor on 2, CCTV Viewer on 3 (we have a baby and babysitter so I occasionally check them). In the other monitor, I have slack, terminals etc. So when I need to switch between browser <-> code (or terminal) I can do quickly. Scrollable comes in handy when you need to check something quickly; for example you are trying to solve something and you need to run some commands in terminal. In that case I just open a new terminal next to browser, do my job and get rid of it. Also the Super+Tab view is awesome, you can easily see which window is where. Niri also some IPC features so you can find window id and make Niri focus to it. This comes handy if you use Vicinae (Raycast like launcher for Linux). I can switch windows with just using that. One final note, I highly recommend DankMaterialShell - https://github.com/AvengeMedia/DankMaterialShell/ https://github.com/AvengeMedia/DankMaterialShell/ along with Niri.
- aeon_ai 1y ago
  That's fair -- Basically, you're saying you just add the feature of 'scrollable' to any workspace? DMS looks pretty slick.
dismalaf 1y ago
I'm also on Omarchy. I use it somewhat like a scrollable compositor, in that I open a max of 2 windows, then move on to the next desktop, then just scroll through them all. But have the option for floating windows or a vertical split when needed (to run a command or something). Plus Hyprland is becoming more cohesive by the day.
grimblee 1y ago
I feel the I use Arch btw is fair because with pure Arch you actually have to configure things, you know. But Omarchy is a fully pre-configured distro, there's no flex in that.
- aeon_ai 1y ago
  I'd consider it just an opinionated distribution of Arch, with a lot of flex. Sure, I think if you disagree with the majority, you'd go Arch and rice your own from the base install (lot of folks who do), but if not, it's a very streamlined way to get off to the races with a community supporting the shared baseline 'opinions'
  - grimblee 1y ago
    What am saying is you can't flex if people half baked the work for you, "btw I use Arch" was a flex because you had to configure everything yourself. So it's a but ridiculous imho, there's no flex in it but you try to flex anyways...
    - aeon_ai 1y ago
      It’s a meme, not a flex.
sroerick 1y ago
> I use Omarchy, btw. I've been thinking about this comment all day trying to decide if this was an unironic "I use Arch btw" or an intentional homage, but it made me laugh a lot
- aeon_ai 1y ago
  Intentional homage (and tongue in cheek joke)

antonyh 1y ago

I avoid anything to do with DHH for his views expressed on his blog. I'm sure Omarchy is nice and all, but there are other choices without the ethical baggage.

aeon_ai 1y ago
I'm familiar with DHH's opinions -- Can you elaborate on how there are ethical implications/baggage associated with using FOSS? Must we leave the vicinity of people we don't always agree with?
- antonyh 1y ago
  It's not the FOSS, it's the distribution. As far as I can tell everything in that distro is available elsewhere.
- exasperaited 1y ago
  I am relaxed about the small potential downsides of not being in the vicinity of people who lionize Tommy Robinson.
  - dismalaf 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - exasperaited 1y ago
      > Right now there's pro "Palestinian" "protests" on the streets of the UK celebrating the murder of 2 Jews in Manchester... That is a _disgraceful_ misrepresentation of the facts. So much so that it renders replying to any part of your point completely impossible.
      - dismalaf 1y ago
        https://x.com/SFaeze_Alavi/status/1973812507346416121?t=FotrBL_dvfi4YH_m9VMG8Q&s=19 https://x.com/SFaeze_Alavi/status/1973812507346416121?t=Fotr...
        exasperaited 1y ago
        That is an organised, scheduled protest in London, about longstanding actions in Gaza. Why should it stop, particularly? You (with the person who tweeted) are misrepresenting both this protest and the opinions of the people who are protesting.
        dismalaf 1y ago
        People on the ground at many of these protests are saying that enough people are celebrating the attack. In London they were attacking the police. What % need to support the attack before it's a problem?
        fwip 1y ago
        A higher % than "some people who hate the protesters say they definitely heard it happening."
  - aeon_ai 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - exasperaited 1y ago
      This article is a far right tone poem; that it mentions Tommy Robinson at all without any qualification, and links to the "FreedomMarch" hash tag is enough to qualify. Shame on DHH for eliding who Tommy Robinson really is -- a football hooligan and violent thug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson#Criminal_offences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson#Criminal_offenc... DHH knows nothing of London, and the hugely-ironic idea that it's too full of "non-native" British people for him -- a white foreigner -- to feel comfortable moving there is the purest sign of who he is.
gcoguiec 1y ago
Am I the only one that reads it as "I use monarchy, btw"?

peyloride 1y ago

If I'm not mistaken, you can have the same workflow with niri. You don't need to use "scrollable" feature of Niri, you can attach screens to workspaces. I was a former Hyprland user but after I switch to Niri I didn't look back because I think it's kind of having best of two worlds. In my workflow, I have browser on workspace 1, code editor on 2, CCTV Viewer on 3 (we have a baby and babysitter so I occasionally check them). In the other monitor, I have slack, terminals etc. So when I need to switch between browser <-> code (or terminal) I can do quickly. Scrollable comes in handy when you need to check something quickly; for example you are trying to solve something and you need to run some commands in terminal. In that case I just open a new terminal next to browser, do my job and get rid of it. Also the Super+Tab view is awesome, you can easily see which window is where. Niri also some IPC features so you can find window id and make Niri focus to it. This comes handy if you use Vicinae (Raycast like launcher for Linux). I can switch windows with just using that. One final note, I highly recommend DankMaterialShell - https://github.com/AvengeMedia/DankMaterialShell/ https://github.com/AvengeMedia/DankMaterialShell/ along with Niri.

aeon_ai 1y ago
That's fair -- Basically, you're saying you just add the feature of 'scrollable' to any workspace? DMS looks pretty slick.

dismalaf 1y ago

I'm also on Omarchy. I use it somewhat like a scrollable compositor, in that I open a max of 2 windows, then move on to the next desktop, then just scroll through them all. But have the option for floating windows or a vertical split when needed (to run a command or something). Plus Hyprland is becoming more cohesive by the day.

grimblee 1y ago

I feel the I use Arch btw is fair because with pure Arch you actually have to configure things, you know. But Omarchy is a fully pre-configured distro, there's no flex in that.

aeon_ai 1y ago
I'd consider it just an opinionated distribution of Arch, with a lot of flex. Sure, I think if you disagree with the majority, you'd go Arch and rice your own from the base install (lot of folks who do), but if not, it's a very streamlined way to get off to the races with a community supporting the shared baseline 'opinions'
- grimblee 1y ago
  What am saying is you can't flex if people half baked the work for you, "btw I use Arch" was a flex because you had to configure everything yourself. So it's a but ridiculous imho, there's no flex in it but you try to flex anyways...
  - aeon_ai 1y ago
    It’s a meme, not a flex.

sroerick 1y ago

> I use Omarchy, btw. I've been thinking about this comment all day trying to decide if this was an unironic "I use Arch btw" or an intentional homage, but it made me laugh a lot

aeon_ai 1y ago
Intentional homage (and tongue in cheek joke)