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I think the onus is on you at this point to go and actually read about what he has done in the last ten years. It’s not up to someone else to spoon feed it to y

by mdhb 1y ago

I think the onus is on you at this point to go and actually read about what he has done in the last ten years. It’s not up to someone else to spoon feed it to you.

kreetx 1y ago
Though it's only the name callers who know "what he has done". You should at least try make your case if you want to convince someone else.
- jesterson 1y ago
  He knows he can't so he tries to blame everyone else.
- mdhb 1y ago
  You’ve just completely made up something here to presumably make yourself feel smart? Literally tens of thousands of words have been published on this topic. Asking someone to read them isn’t some unreasonable request. What is unreasonable is turning up in a discussion and saying either none of that pre-existing material counts for nothing or that I shouldn’t have to do any work here and instead you should “debate me bro”.
  - kreetx 1y ago
    Yet these words I've never seen. You probably do your reading in a niche environment, that is why I'm asking for any actual content. Also, unlikely that I'll debate you, I'm just only wondering what that reading material you refer to is about. Edit: Which chat group, website, forum, video channel would you recommend?
jesterson 1y ago
I would consider myself fairly informed with what he has done in the last 10 years. And while I don't like some of it, nothing of that can remotely be used to justify calling him a "fascist". It's expected you can't substantiate your words. Easy escape blaming someone else isn't it?
- mdhb 1y ago
  Listen, I’m going to be honest with you, when you say that you’re well informed and it’s just everyone else overreacting I don’t believe you. But I’m happy to be proved wrong so why don’t you go ahead and show me by giving your best faith interpretation as to why you think someone might call him a fascist.
  - mdhb 1y ago
    Imagine my and everyone else’s surprise to hear your silence on this one a full day later… couldn’t have seen that coming a mile away but go on and tell me more about how it’s on everyone else to do the hard work and convince you with detailed arguments. Heaven forbid you had to lift a finger here yourself.
    - jesterson 1y ago
      Given how you twist facts, I usually don't waste time to discuss things with people who are throwing unsubstantiated accusations, blame everyone else when asked to substantiate. You made accusation that is absolutely unsubstantiated and blatantly false. When suddenly asked to substantiate it, you bailed out by telling everyone to do their work. Thats the answer why noone reasonable would engage in any discussions of that quality and manner.

by mdhb 1y ago

I think the onus is on you at this point to go and actually read about what he has done in the last ten years. It’s not up to someone else to spoon feed it to you.

kreetx 1y ago

Though it's only the name callers who know "what he has done". You should at least try make your case if you want to convince someone else.

jesterson 1y ago
He knows he can't so he tries to blame everyone else.
mdhb 1y ago
You’ve just completely made up something here to presumably make yourself feel smart? Literally tens of thousands of words have been published on this topic. Asking someone to read them isn’t some unreasonable request. What is unreasonable is turning up in a discussion and saying either none of that pre-existing material counts for nothing or that I shouldn’t have to do any work here and instead you should “debate me bro”.
- kreetx 1y ago
  Yet these words I've never seen. You probably do your reading in a niche environment, that is why I'm asking for any actual content. Also, unlikely that I'll debate you, I'm just only wondering what that reading material you refer to is about. Edit: Which chat group, website, forum, video channel would you recommend?

jesterson 1y ago

I would consider myself fairly informed with what he has done in the last 10 years. And while I don't like some of it, nothing of that can remotely be used to justify calling him a "fascist". It's expected you can't substantiate your words. Easy escape blaming someone else isn't it?

mdhb 1y ago
Listen, I’m going to be honest with you, when you say that you’re well informed and it’s just everyone else overreacting I don’t believe you. But I’m happy to be proved wrong so why don’t you go ahead and show me by giving your best faith interpretation as to why you think someone might call him a fascist.
- mdhb 1y ago
  Imagine my and everyone else’s surprise to hear your silence on this one a full day later… couldn’t have seen that coming a mile away but go on and tell me more about how it’s on everyone else to do the hard work and convince you with detailed arguments. Heaven forbid you had to lift a finger here yourself.
  - jesterson 1y ago
    Given how you twist facts, I usually don't waste time to discuss things with people who are throwing unsubstantiated accusations, blame everyone else when asked to substantiate. You made accusation that is absolutely unsubstantiated and blatantly false. When suddenly asked to substantiate it, you bailed out by telling everyone to do their work. Thats the answer why noone reasonable would engage in any discussions of that quality and manner.