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Here in the UK, the government wants: * ID checks for social media (to protect children) * A digital ID card, allowing ID check records to be provably linked

Here in the UK, the government wants: * ID checks for social media (to protect children) * A digital ID card, allowing ID check records to be provably linked to the original ID document (to prevent illegal working) * The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media And even if you trust the current government, there are very real fears the next government will be Trump-admiring right wing populists who are eager to upend the status quo.

pjc50 1y ago
> The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". It took years for even Glinner to finally cross that line and get his collar felt.
- agedclock 1y ago
  > When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". No that isn't the case. The are substantial problems in the UK around the the various hate speech and terrorism laws. Pretending there isn't by hand waiving away concerns and pretending that them being found not guilty later after having their life turned upside down (the process is the punishment) is quite honestly disingenuous.
- type0 1y ago
  For the most part it doesn't go as far as the arrest but it gives the right for police to do "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals" because their kids are posting unpopular memes on social media UK is in big trouble, it's a naughty nanny state
  - pjc50 1y ago
    > because their kids are posting unpopular memes on social media I can't work out what this is supposed to refer to? Is this supposed to coexist with the "parents have complete responsibility for their kid's internet usage" from the Online Safety Act discourse?
- michaelt 1y ago
  I don’t follow this stuff in depth but if the arrests are part of a "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals" by the police that sounds worse IMHO?
  - pseudalopex 1y ago
    They meant the people who were arrested were arrested for harassment and abuse of individuals. Not posting unfashionable takes. Graham Linehan was their example.

pjc50 1y ago

> The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". It took years for even Glinner to finally cross that line and get his collar felt.

agedclock 1y ago
> When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". No that isn't the case. The are substantial problems in the UK around the the various hate speech and terrorism laws. Pretending there isn't by hand waiving away concerns and pretending that them being found not guilty later after having their life turned upside down (the process is the punishment) is quite honestly disingenuous.
type0 1y ago
For the most part it doesn't go as far as the arrest but it gives the right for police to do "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals" because their kids are posting unpopular memes on social media UK is in big trouble, it's a naughty nanny state
- pjc50 1y ago
  > because their kids are posting unpopular memes on social media I can't work out what this is supposed to refer to? Is this supposed to coexist with the "parents have complete responsibility for their kid's internet usage" from the Online Safety Act discourse?
michaelt 1y ago
I don’t follow this stuff in depth but if the arrests are part of a "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals" by the police that sounds worse IMHO?
- pseudalopex 1y ago
  They meant the people who were arrested were arrested for harassment and abuse of individuals. Not posting unfashionable takes. Graham Linehan was their example.