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> They've always displayed that way. You never see one feed mixed into another feed. This problem can't arise in RSS. All readers I know have the option to dis

> They've always displayed that way. You never see one feed mixed into another feed. This problem can't arise in RSS. All readers I know have the option to display all feeds chronologically, or an entire folder of feeds chronologically. In most, that's the default setting when you open the app/page. I always use it like that. If I'd want to see all new posts from a single author, I might as well just bookmark their blog.

thaumasiotes 1y ago
> All readers I know have the option to display all feeds chronologically, or an entire folder of feeds chronologically. In most, that's the default setting when you open the app/page. The option might exist. It was certainly not the default in mainstream readers in the past and it still isn't now. I never encountered it in Google Reader (as mainstream as it gets), or in Yoleo (highly niche), or in Thunderbird (also as mainstream as it gets). Whether a bunch of unused projects make something strange the default doesn't really have an impact on the user experience. This is not something you can expect to encounter when using RSS. > If I'd want to see all new posts from a single author, I might as well just bookmark their blog. That approach will fail for two obvious reasons: 1. The bookmark is not sensitive to new posts. When there is no new post, you have to check it anyway. When there are several new posts, you're likely to overlook some of them. 2. Checking one bookmark is easy; checking 72 bookmarks is not.
- akho 1y ago
  > I never encountered it in Google Reader It was the default view in Google Reader, the "All Items" view. A mix of all feeds, ordered chronologically, is the default view in tt-rss, miniflux, inoreader, feedly, netnewswire, and all RSS readers I've ever seen. It's also what "syndication" means.
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  - thaumasiotes 1y ago
    For your weirdest claim: > syndication noun > syn·di·ca·tion > the act of selling something (such as a newspaper column or television series) for publication or broadcast to multiple newspapers, periodicals, websites, stations, etc. >> the syndication of news articles and video footage ( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/syndication https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/syndication ) The "syndication" in RSS refers to distributing the same content to many different readers. Here's MDN: https://devdoc.net/web/developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/RSS/Getting_Started/Syndicating.html https://devdoc.net/web/developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/RSS/... > This article provides a simple guide to using RSS to syndicate Web content. Note that this is a guide to creating an RSS feed from the publisher's perspective. It is not possible for two feeds to be displayed together, or at all, on the publisher's end. How do you interpret the verb syndicate?
    - akho 1y ago
      Traditional print syndication provides articles to smaller publications, who re-contextualize them in other material. Like your RSS reader does. I note that you haven’t addressed your weirdest claim — that the default presentation of most feed readers isn’t.
      - thaumasiotes 1y ago
        > I note that you haven’t addressed your weirdest claim — that the default presentation of most feed readers isn’t. As far as I can tell, you're making up non-facts.
HankStallone 1y ago
If you bookmark Dave's blog, you have to check his blog every day to see if there's something new, even if Dave only posts monthly. Or you check less often, and sometimes discover a new post long after the discussion in the comments has come and gone. If you put Dave's blog in your RSS reader, one day "Dave (1)" shows up in your list of unread sources and you can read his new post immediately, and you didn't need to think about Dave's blog any other day. I could use the "all articles" feed in my RSS reader (TT-RSS), but I would never do such a thing unless all the blogs I follow had similar posting frequencies that would mesh well together, which they don't. I never use the front page of Reddit for the same reason: the busy subs would drown out the ones that get a post a week.

thaumasiotes 1y ago

> All readers I know have the option to display all feeds chronologically, or an entire folder of feeds chronologically. In most, that's the default setting when you open the app/page. The option might exist. It was certainly not the default in mainstream readers in the past and it still isn't now. I never encountered it in Google Reader (as mainstream as it gets), or in Yoleo (highly niche), or in Thunderbird (also as mainstream as it gets). Whether a bunch of unused projects make something strange the default doesn't really have an impact on the user experience. This is not something you can expect to encounter when using RSS. > If I'd want to see all new posts from a single author, I might as well just bookmark their blog. That approach will fail for two obvious reasons: 1. The bookmark is not sensitive to new posts. When there is no new post, you have to check it anyway. When there are several new posts, you're likely to overlook some of them. 2. Checking one bookmark is easy; checking 72 bookmarks is not.

akho 1y ago
> I never encountered it in Google Reader It was the default view in Google Reader, the "All Items" view. A mix of all feeds, ordered chronologically, is the default view in tt-rss, miniflux, inoreader, feedly, netnewswire, and all RSS readers I've ever seen. It's also what "syndication" means.
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- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  For your weirdest claim: > syndication noun > syn·di·ca·tion > the act of selling something (such as a newspaper column or television series) for publication or broadcast to multiple newspapers, periodicals, websites, stations, etc. >> the syndication of news articles and video footage ( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/syndication https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/syndication ) The "syndication" in RSS refers to distributing the same content to many different readers. Here's MDN: https://devdoc.net/web/developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/RSS/Getting_Started/Syndicating.html https://devdoc.net/web/developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/RSS/... > This article provides a simple guide to using RSS to syndicate Web content. Note that this is a guide to creating an RSS feed from the publisher's perspective. It is not possible for two feeds to be displayed together, or at all, on the publisher's end. How do you interpret the verb syndicate?
  - akho 1y ago
    Traditional print syndication provides articles to smaller publications, who re-contextualize them in other material. Like your RSS reader does. I note that you haven’t addressed your weirdest claim — that the default presentation of most feed readers isn’t.
    - thaumasiotes 1y ago
      > I note that you haven’t addressed your weirdest claim — that the default presentation of most feed readers isn’t. As far as I can tell, you're making up non-facts.

HankStallone 1y ago

If you bookmark Dave's blog, you have to check his blog every day to see if there's something new, even if Dave only posts monthly. Or you check less often, and sometimes discover a new post long after the discussion in the comments has come and gone. If you put Dave's blog in your RSS reader, one day "Dave (1)" shows up in your list of unread sources and you can read his new post immediately, and you didn't need to think about Dave's blog any other day. I could use the "all articles" feed in my RSS reader (TT-RSS), but I would never do such a thing unless all the blogs I follow had similar posting frequencies that would mesh well together, which they don't. I never use the front page of Reddit for the same reason: the busy subs would drown out the ones that get a post a week.