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> Being forced into a never ending apartheid situation may also be the reason. An occupation is not apartheid. > Give them voting rights Israel tried that...

> Being forced into a never ending apartheid situation may also be the reason. An occupation is not apartheid. > Give them voting rights Israel tried that...Palestinians straight up voted for Hamas terrorists[0] who promptly eliminated voting rights(although based on opinion polling Hamas would likely be elected again). > give them a state Israel tried moving towards that in Gaza[1], it backfired spectacularly leading to the current conflict. Any other ideas on how to move towards peaceful coexistence? I think the first step is some sort of de-radicalization program, but not sure how one would implement that. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_e... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the...

markessien 1y ago
Israel has said: The Palestinians will never have a state. They have also said - the Palestinians will never vote in Israel. Is this not apartheid?
- jameshilliard 1y ago
  > Is this not apartheid? Apartheid by definition means race based discrimination, which is different from citizenship based discrimination(which basically all countries have to various degrees).
  - markessien 1y ago
    Anyone in the world who has one race can freely move there. People of other races cannot. Rights are awarded based on race. Nothing to do with citizenship. Apartheid.
    - jameshilliard 1y ago
      > Anyone in the world who has one race can freely move there. People of other races cannot. Rights are awarded based on race. Nothing to do with citizenship. You're obviously referring to a Israeli citizenship law[0] here. Your claim that it has nothing to do with citizenship makes no sense. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

markessien 1y ago

Israel has said: The Palestinians will never have a state. They have also said - the Palestinians will never vote in Israel. Is this not apartheid?

jameshilliard 1y ago
> Is this not apartheid? Apartheid by definition means race based discrimination, which is different from citizenship based discrimination(which basically all countries have to various degrees).
- markessien 1y ago
  Anyone in the world who has one race can freely move there. People of other races cannot. Rights are awarded based on race. Nothing to do with citizenship. Apartheid.
  - jameshilliard 1y ago
    > Anyone in the world who has one race can freely move there. People of other races cannot. Rights are awarded based on race. Nothing to do with citizenship. You're obviously referring to a Israeli citizenship law[0] here. Your claim that it has nothing to do with citizenship makes no sense. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return