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I'm curious to know what it is that India didn't fare well in the recent conflict. Based on my reading I was under the impression that original incursion was a

I'm curious to know what it is that India didn't fare well in the recent conflict. Based on my reading I was under the impression that original incursion was a military success for India and everything else after that was theatre on both sides. What am I missing?

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> curious to know what it is that India didn't fare well in the recent conflict Pakistan shot down Indian plane(s). India didn't return the favour. Worse, Pakistan's integrated air defence systems had situational awareness; it's clear Indian Rafale pilots didn't even see the shots coming. It's not a victory for one side or the other, overall. But in the air battle, Pakistan gained tactical supremacy.
throwaway7783 1y ago
The Indian government claims to have shit down Pakistani jets as well and Pakistan denied it. Pakistan claims to have shit down six jets and India says it's 3. So there is that
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Indian government claims to have shit down Pakistani jets as well and Pakistan denied it A lot of folks have looked at a lot of OSINT. There is no evidence of any Indian kills. The best we can say is we have zero confirmed kills by India on Pakistan. For what it's worth, New Delhi seems to have backed off repeating its claims of kills internationally. > Pakistan claims to have shit down six jets and India says it's 3 India claims three jets crashed for unknown reasons [1]. French and US officials have indirectly confirmed those kills [2][3]. Internationally, it's being treated as three confirmed kills by Pakistan. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jets-crashed-indias-jammu-kashmir-local-govt-sources-say-2025-05-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jet... [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-brought-down-two-indian-fighter-aircraft-us-officials-2025-05-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-bro... [3] https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attack-kashmir-tourists-intl-hnk https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attac...

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> curious to know what it is that India didn't fare well in the recent conflict Pakistan shot down Indian plane(s). India didn't return the favour. Worse, Pakistan's integrated air defence systems had situational awareness; it's clear Indian Rafale pilots didn't even see the shots coming. It's not a victory for one side or the other, overall. But in the air battle, Pakistan gained tactical supremacy.

throwaway7783 1y ago

The Indian government claims to have shit down Pakistani jets as well and Pakistan denied it. Pakistan claims to have shit down six jets and India says it's 3. So there is that

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Indian government claims to have shit down Pakistani jets as well and Pakistan denied it A lot of folks have looked at a lot of OSINT. There is no evidence of any Indian kills. The best we can say is we have zero confirmed kills by India on Pakistan. For what it's worth, New Delhi seems to have backed off repeating its claims of kills internationally. > Pakistan claims to have shit down six jets and India says it's 3 India claims three jets crashed for unknown reasons [1]. French and US officials have indirectly confirmed those kills [2][3]. Internationally, it's being treated as three confirmed kills by Pakistan. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jets-crashed-indias-jammu-kashmir-local-govt-sources-say-2025-05-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jet... [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-brought-down-two-indian-fighter-aircraft-us-officials-2025-05-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-bro... [3] https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attack-kashmir-tourists-intl-hnk https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attac...