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China and India have problematic local Muslim populations. That doesn’t extend to supporting Israel. And they clearly don’t. China actively talks against it (b

China and India have problematic local Muslim populations. That doesn’t extend to supporting Israel. And they clearly don’t. China actively talks against it (because it builds global goodwill on the diplomatic stage) and India only plays lip service (they have more to gain from the Gulf than Israel).

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> And they clearly don’t. China actively talks against it They've both deepened trade ties with Israel throughout the war. India is literally selling Israel weapons [1]. [1] https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-on-gaza-indian-made-israel-killer-hermes-drone-make-way https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-on-gaza-indian-made-i...
- churchill 1y ago
  They're opportunistically buying/selling what they want. None of these are an ideological commitment to Israel's status quo. If the wind direction changes, they'll change with it.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > They're opportunistically buying/selling what they want. None of these are an ideological commitment to Israel's status quo. If the wind direction changes, they'll change with it Yes. That's trade. It's true for most international relationships.
    - master_crab 1y ago
      Yes. That's trade. It's true for most international relationships. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. China and India don’t have an ideological relationship with Israel. So Israel is never going to “diversify” (your words) their relationship to the point that China is shooting down cruise missiles flying over Tel Aviv on their behalf.
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        America is a perfect ally to Israel. I’m not arguing they’ll replace us 1:1. Just more than adequately, certainly enough to maintain a regional hegemony if not fight for it anew. > India don’t have an ideological relationship with Israel Right-wing Indians and Israelis actually have quite a bit in common. I don’t think it’s enough to sustain a long-term alliance. And New Delhi is no Washington. (It’s also a buyer of Iranian oil.) But there are outright exterminationist wings in both countries, and their enemies share the same faith.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> And they clearly don’t. China actively talks against it They've both deepened trade ties with Israel throughout the war. India is literally selling Israel weapons [1]. [1] https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-on-gaza-indian-made-israel-killer-hermes-drone-make-way https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-on-gaza-indian-made-i...

churchill 1y ago
They're opportunistically buying/selling what they want. None of these are an ideological commitment to Israel's status quo. If the wind direction changes, they'll change with it.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > They're opportunistically buying/selling what they want. None of these are an ideological commitment to Israel's status quo. If the wind direction changes, they'll change with it Yes. That's trade. It's true for most international relationships.
  - master_crab 1y ago
    Yes. That's trade. It's true for most international relationships. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. China and India don’t have an ideological relationship with Israel. So Israel is never going to “diversify” (your words) their relationship to the point that China is shooting down cruise missiles flying over Tel Aviv on their behalf.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      America is a perfect ally to Israel. I’m not arguing they’ll replace us 1:1. Just more than adequately, certainly enough to maintain a regional hegemony if not fight for it anew. > India don’t have an ideological relationship with Israel Right-wing Indians and Israelis actually have quite a bit in common. I don’t think it’s enough to sustain a long-term alliance. And New Delhi is no Washington. (It’s also a buyer of Iranian oil.) But there are outright exterminationist wings in both countries, and their enemies share the same faith.