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I think this is directionally right but to nitpick…Google has way more trust than OpenAI right now and it’s not close. Acceleration is felt, not velocity.

piskov 1y ago
Google and trust are an oxymoron
- QuantumFunnel 1y ago
  The only thing I trust google to do is abandon software and give me a terrible support experience
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    And to charge you for stuff you don't want and don't need as if you are using it every day through tied sales. Hm... wasn't that illegal? https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tiedselling.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tiedselling.asp
anonymousiam 1y ago
I agree with you, and my impression of the trust-level of Google is pretty much zero.
chmod775 1y ago
This really depends on where you are are. Some countries' populations, especially those known to value privacy, are extremely distrustful of anything associated with Facebook or Google.
jacquesm 1y ago
I really don't trust either. Google because of what they've already done, OpenAI because it has a guy at the helm who doesn't know how to spell the word 'ethics'.
- renewiltord 1y ago
  That's mostly because LLMs think in terms of tokens not letters, so spelling is hard.
  - floren 1y ago
    He knows there's no "I" in "ethics"
da_chicken 1y ago
Yeah, I agree with you. Between Android, Chrome, YouTube, Gmail (including mx.google.com), Docs/Drive, Meet/Chat, and Google Search, claiming that Google "isn't more trusted" is just ludicrous. People may not be happy they have to trust Alphabet. But they certainly do. And even when they insist they're Stallman, their friends do, their family does, their coworkers do, the businesses they interact with do, the schools they send their children to do.
- djtango 1y ago
  Like it or not, Google has wormed their way into the fabric of modern life. Chrome and Google Search are still the gateway to the internet outside China. Android has over 75% market share of all mobile(!). YouTube is somewhat uniquely the video internet with Instagram and Tiktok not really occupying the same mindshare for "search" and long form. People can say they don't "trust" Google but the fact is that if the world didn't trust Google, it never would have gotten to where it is and it would quickly unravel from here. Sent from my Android (begrudgingly)
- lemonlearnings 1y ago
  With search you dont fully trust Google. You trust Google to find good results most of the time them trust those results based on other factors. But with AI you now have all trust in one place. For Google and OpenAI their AI bullshits. It will only be trusted by fools. Luckily for the corporations there is no end of fools to fool.
- rightbyte 1y ago
  > And even when they insist they're Stallman Looking through the JS-code of this site I was happily surprised finding 153 lines of not minified but pretty JS. I anticipated at least some unfree code. So I guess there is a chance some user might rightfully claim this.

piskov 1y ago

Google and trust are an oxymoron

QuantumFunnel 1y ago
The only thing I trust google to do is abandon software and give me a terrible support experience
- jacquesm 1y ago
  And to charge you for stuff you don't want and don't need as if you are using it every day through tied sales. Hm... wasn't that illegal? https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tiedselling.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tiedselling.asp

anonymousiam 1y ago

I agree with you, and my impression of the trust-level of Google is pretty much zero.

chmod775 1y ago

This really depends on where you are are. Some countries' populations, especially those known to value privacy, are extremely distrustful of anything associated with Facebook or Google.

jacquesm 1y ago

I really don't trust either. Google because of what they've already done, OpenAI because it has a guy at the helm who doesn't know how to spell the word 'ethics'.

renewiltord 1y ago
That's mostly because LLMs think in terms of tokens not letters, so spelling is hard.
- floren 1y ago
  He knows there's no "I" in "ethics"

da_chicken 1y ago

Yeah, I agree with you. Between Android, Chrome, YouTube, Gmail (including mx.google.com), Docs/Drive, Meet/Chat, and Google Search, claiming that Google "isn't more trusted" is just ludicrous. People may not be happy they have to trust Alphabet. But they certainly do. And even when they insist they're Stallman, their friends do, their family does, their coworkers do, the businesses they interact with do, the schools they send their children to do.

djtango 1y ago
Like it or not, Google has wormed their way into the fabric of modern life. Chrome and Google Search are still the gateway to the internet outside China. Android has over 75% market share of all mobile(!). YouTube is somewhat uniquely the video internet with Instagram and Tiktok not really occupying the same mindshare for "search" and long form. People can say they don't "trust" Google but the fact is that if the world didn't trust Google, it never would have gotten to where it is and it would quickly unravel from here. Sent from my Android (begrudgingly)
lemonlearnings 1y ago
With search you dont fully trust Google. You trust Google to find good results most of the time them trust those results based on other factors. But with AI you now have all trust in one place. For Google and OpenAI their AI bullshits. It will only be trusted by fools. Luckily for the corporations there is no end of fools to fool.
rightbyte 1y ago
> And even when they insist they're Stallman Looking through the JS-code of this site I was happily surprised finding 153 lines of not minified but pretty JS. I anticipated at least some unfree code. So I guess there is a chance some user might rightfully claim this.