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Israel was formed by invading Palestine, murdering Palestinians and forcing them to migrate.

by buyucu 1y ago

jameshilliard 1y ago
Jewish immigration to Palestine was initially accomplished by buying land from Arab landowners during the time when it was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.
- buyucu 1y ago
  Is that why millions of Palestinians are refugees in other countries? Israel's founding principles are mass murder and invasion.
  - jameshilliard 1y ago
    > Is that why millions of Palestinians are refugees in other countries? Palestinian refugees are defined differently by the UN vs essentially all other refugees. Palestinian refugees fall under the UNRWA while normal refugees(i.e. refugees from essentially all other countries) fall under the UNHCR. The UNRWA definition is hereditary while the UNHCR definition is not. This hereditary definition is largely why the Palestinian refugee populations can increase over time in other countries so easily vs normal refugees.
    - buyucu 1y ago
      no matter how you define it, those people had to run away from Palestine because of Israeli murderers.
      - jameshilliard 1y ago
        > those people had to run away from Palestine because of Israeli murderers There were multiple reason they(or their ancestors) left, there was plenty of violence when Israel was created but it wasn't like it was just one side attacking either. Regardless it's quite strange that someone is still considered a refugee despite potentially having never even been to the country they are supposedly a refugee from, especially since that doesn't happen for refugees from other countries(at least with how the UN defines refugee).
        buyucu 1y ago
        Are you seriously defending expelling millions of people from their homes? What is wrong with you?
        jameshilliard 1y ago
        There was a war, people fled and were expelled from their homes for various reasons, Jews lost their homes as well due to the war. Sometimes fleeing a conflict is the least bad option. I have grandparents that had to flee their homes due to living in a country that was on the losing side of a war, they never got their homes/land back. I would probably even be considered a refugee by the UNRWA definition of refugee used for Palestinians. After Israels independence most Jews living in Arab countries were also forced out of their homes/land, I don't see Jews trying to get their original homes back in those Arab countries either. We can't go back in time and fix all the historical wrongs in the world, we have to move forwards.

Israel was formed by invading Palestine, murdering Palestinians and forcing them to migrate.

by buyucu 1y ago

Israel was formed by invading Palestine, murdering Palestinians and forcing them to migrate.

Jewish immigration to Palestine was initially accomplished by buying land from Arab landowners during the time when it was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.

buyucu 1y ago
Is that why millions of Palestinians are refugees in other countries? Israel's founding principles are mass murder and invasion.
- jameshilliard 1y ago
  > Is that why millions of Palestinians are refugees in other countries? Palestinian refugees are defined differently by the UN vs essentially all other refugees. Palestinian refugees fall under the UNRWA while normal refugees(i.e. refugees from essentially all other countries) fall under the UNHCR. The UNRWA definition is hereditary while the UNHCR definition is not. This hereditary definition is largely why the Palestinian refugee populations can increase over time in other countries so easily vs normal refugees.
  - buyucu 1y ago
    no matter how you define it, those people had to run away from Palestine because of Israeli murderers.
    - jameshilliard 1y ago
      > those people had to run away from Palestine because of Israeli murderers There were multiple reason they(or their ancestors) left, there was plenty of violence when Israel was created but it wasn't like it was just one side attacking either. Regardless it's quite strange that someone is still considered a refugee despite potentially having never even been to the country they are supposedly a refugee from, especially since that doesn't happen for refugees from other countries(at least with how the UN defines refugee).
      - buyucu 1y ago
        Are you seriously defending expelling millions of people from their homes? What is wrong with you?
        jameshilliard 1y ago
        There was a war, people fled and were expelled from their homes for various reasons, Jews lost their homes as well due to the war. Sometimes fleeing a conflict is the least bad option. I have grandparents that had to flee their homes due to living in a country that was on the losing side of a war, they never got their homes/land back. I would probably even be considered a refugee by the UNRWA definition of refugee used for Palestinians. After Israels independence most Jews living in Arab countries were also forced out of their homes/land, I don't see Jews trying to get their original homes back in those Arab countries either. We can't go back in time and fix all the historical wrongs in the world, we have to move forwards.