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Aid did get in, and Hamas did steal it. The media ignored it, so the narrative continues status-quo. Israel has no reason to support Hamas and their efforts he

by Alupis 1y ago

Aid did get in, and Hamas did steal it. The media ignored it, so the narrative continues status-quo. Israel has no reason to support Hamas and their efforts here. If Hamas wasn't stealing all of the aid earlier in this conflict, perhaps aid would still be flowing into Gaza. It doesn't seem so absolute/cut-and-dry like you try to make it.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Aid did get in, and Hamas did steal it We have no proof this was routinely happening [1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...
- Alupis 1y ago
  The UN's own data does not support your claim or article[1]. The UN's data showed 88% of trucks delivering aid to Gaza were looted along their routes - failing to reach their intended destination. [1] - https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/08/05/un-reports-88-percent-of-aid-trucks-slated-for-delivery-in-gaza-since-may-looted-along-routes/ https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/08/05/un-reports-88-percen...
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > UN's data showed 88% of trucks delivering aid to Gaza were looted along their routes - failing to reach their intended destination Yes. I think a shop in San Francisco also had some candy bars stolen this AM. Doesn't mean Hamas did it.
    - Alupis 1y ago
      You're trying super hard here... So explain to us who is armed and can loot a moving UN convoy in the Gaza region??? This is some insane, wild, political nonsense.
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > explain to us who is armed and can loot a moving UN convoy in the Gaza region That's not what the data say! "Intercepted" means what in retail one calls "shrinkage." It was there before. It isn't now. A staffer could have stolen it. A security guard or driver could have been bribed. It could have been dropped off at the wrong location, or not tracked. It could have been ripped off a moving truck by unarmed, hungry people [1]. It could be non-militants who picked a gun off a dead combatant. Or it could be armed militants. Concluding that all shrinkage is the result of armed robbery is sort of like figuring everything a store's inventory system says was delivered to the store that isn't on the shelves and hasn't been sold was obviously robbed at gunpoint. (I'm also not sure where you're getting the idea that these are armed convoys of UN assets being run through Gaza. Aid provisioning is generally much more rinky dink. And the "U.N. does not accept protection from Israeli forces, saying it would violate its rules of neutrality.") [1] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-aid-trucks-danger-34f60bfcd7c84d75e90847c70b76b302 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-aid-tru...
        Alupis 1y ago
        You actually believe 88% of all UN aid disappeared to "shrinkage"? The mental gymnastics going on here are stunning...

by Alupis 1y ago

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> Aid did get in, and Hamas did steal it We have no proof this was routinely happening [1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

Alupis 1y ago
The UN's own data does not support your claim or article[1]. The UN's data showed 88% of trucks delivering aid to Gaza were looted along their routes - failing to reach their intended destination. [1] - https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/08/05/un-reports-88-percent-of-aid-trucks-slated-for-delivery-in-gaza-since-may-looted-along-routes/ https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/08/05/un-reports-88-percen...
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > UN's data showed 88% of trucks delivering aid to Gaza were looted along their routes - failing to reach their intended destination Yes. I think a shop in San Francisco also had some candy bars stolen this AM. Doesn't mean Hamas did it.
  - Alupis 1y ago
    You're trying super hard here... So explain to us who is armed and can loot a moving UN convoy in the Gaza region??? This is some insane, wild, political nonsense.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > explain to us who is armed and can loot a moving UN convoy in the Gaza region That's not what the data say! "Intercepted" means what in retail one calls "shrinkage." It was there before. It isn't now. A staffer could have stolen it. A security guard or driver could have been bribed. It could have been dropped off at the wrong location, or not tracked. It could have been ripped off a moving truck by unarmed, hungry people [1]. It could be non-militants who picked a gun off a dead combatant. Or it could be armed militants. Concluding that all shrinkage is the result of armed robbery is sort of like figuring everything a store's inventory system says was delivered to the store that isn't on the shelves and hasn't been sold was obviously robbed at gunpoint. (I'm also not sure where you're getting the idea that these are armed convoys of UN assets being run through Gaza. Aid provisioning is generally much more rinky dink. And the "U.N. does not accept protection from Israeli forces, saying it would violate its rules of neutrality.") [1] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-aid-trucks-danger-34f60bfcd7c84d75e90847c70b76b302 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-aid-tru...
      - Alupis 1y ago
        You actually believe 88% of all UN aid disappeared to "shrinkage"? The mental gymnastics going on here are stunning...