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> DHH’s politics are not normal. Maybe they used to be, I don’t know, but as of right now the dude is way the fuck outside of what most people would consider mo
by periodjet 1y ago
> DHH’s politics are not normal. Maybe they used to be, I don’t know, but as of right now the dude is way the fuck outside of what most people would consider moral or acceptable.
Only a person deeply ensconced in an information bubble could assert this. DHH’s opinions are only surprising and disquieting to a tiny minority of social justice fundamentalists.
The reason this is so uncomfortable for them is because it’s a clear signal that normal middle-of-the-road opinions are (thankfully) becoming normalized once again after the socjus fundies held everyone hostage for over a decade.
The fever is breaking, though, and such people are being revealed for what they actually are: a tiny group of rather unhinged extremists. The rest of us normies are relieved to just be getting back to regular life again.
- jakelazaroff 1y agoLike I said in the article: a high-signal indicator that someone knows their views are extreme and unpopular is when they use this sort of rhetoric. There's a reason you're sort of gesturing vaguely at "DHH's opinions" rather than just plainly stating what you mean.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago<< rather than just plainly stating what you mean. Hmm. What do you think his opinions mean?
- angoragoats 1y agoNo, this is completely wrong. The DHH article that people are referring to here is straight up white nationalist propaganda. It's not even being coy or beating around the bush about it. White nationalism has always been a fringe belief, and is clearly not a "normal middle-of-the-road" opinion. It's funny to me that those who tend to jump to calling out "information bubbles" seem to be the ones most ensconced in them. It's not just you; for example, the most recent DHH blog ("We've all had enough of this nonsense") ranting about how people are trying to "cancel me from Rails" contains a sentence full of links calling the outpouring of support overwhelming, and every single link is a link to a Twitter post. It's equivalent to a pro-LGBT candidate boasting that they have overwhelming public support because they polled everyone at the Pride parade. I'm actually convinced that many people who claim "that normal middle-of-the-road opinions are becoming normalized once again" believe this _solely_ because of the overwhelmingly hard-rightward shift of political beliefs on Twitter. These people don't seem to understand that Twitter is not real life.
- periodjet 1y agoI don’t use Twitter, and I abhor white nationalism as much as any other kind of genetic population-based supremacy movement. So you’re at least wrong about me. Like DHH, though, I am staunchly anti-multiculturalism. This has nothing to do with genetics or identity groups; it has everything to do with beliefs. Search your own convictions, and you’ll likely find that you feel the same way as DHH and I: you likely want your neighbors to not be ardent believers, for example, that women are inherently 2nd class citizens. See? We’re already on the same page. You’ve just been misled into thinking that anti-multiculturalism is somehow related to the poison of one specific identity-based movement (white supremacy). You should attempt to discover how and why you’ve been duped, and by whom.
- archagon 1y agoExcept the movements DHH joyfully writes about are ardently white nationalist and support things like forceful “remigration” for non-whites. There may be a place for the idea that “immigrants are Brits too, but we to improve cultural integration.” This is not that at all.
- periodjet 1y agoI haven’t seen anyone credible mentioning anything about “non-whites”. That would definitely be grounds for concern, but so far it has turned out to be a strawman in these discussions.
- jakelazaroff 1y agoAs I showed in the article, there's literally no other possible good faith interpretation of his "about a third native Brits" figure.
- angoragoats 1y agoIt’s strange how when we point out that DHH is literally pointing to specific ethnicities when he uses the term “native Brit,” the people coming to his defense like @periodjet mysteriously stop responding.
- steve_adams_86 1y agoI'm not a social justice fundamentalist and I find DHH to be reprehensible. You can't assume the only extremists would be disturbed by his opinions. That's a strange position to take about anyone's opinions; even your own.