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Do you really believe that this have anything to do with the hostages? They want the land, that's it. It could be done little by little or it could be done like
by RobertoG 1y ago
Do you really believe that this have anything to do with the hostages? They want the land, that's it. It could be done little by little or it could be done like now, when they have an excuse. But the end goal is the same.
Do you think that what they are doing in the west-bank have anything to do with the hostages or Hamas?
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Do you really believe that this have anything to do with the hostages? To a significant degree, yes. If Hamas turned over the hostages today, Israel's position would significantly weaken. Palestinians' would strength. But so would Hamas', which is why they haven't.
- an0malous 1y agoIsrael has rejected every peace offer from Hamas, including ones brokered by the US. They invited Hamas peace negotiators to Qatar and then bombed them. They have shown no indication that they are willing to agree to a peace deal in exchange for the hostages, it’s just a rationalization they use so that people like you can counter every anti-Israel argument with “well what about the hostages?”
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Israel has rejected every peace offer from Hamas, including ones brokered by the US Which offer did Israel reject that was put forward by Hamas and endorsed by the U.S.? > They have shown no indication that they are willing to agree to a peace deal in exchange for the hostages Maybe you're right. The Palestinians' hand is significantly strengthened if this is shown to be true. If Hamas unilaterally turned over the hostages and sued for peace, I really don't think Israel could continue the war. If they did, they'd lose a massive amount of of international indifference.
- netsharc 1y agoMan, in a scenario where all the hostages are freed, I can't image Netanyahu stopping the genocide... so far he's been "Well, what are you going to do about it?!" about all the war crimes and killings, I would bet my left nut he'd continue the bombings even if all the hostages are returned. It's too easy to say the terrorist want to annihilate Israel (and so, Israel being a rules-abiding civilized democracy, must annihilate the Palestinian state first - terrorists, civilians, all the same...).
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> in a scenario where all the hostages are freed, I can't image Netanyahu stopping the genocide Okay. Are you certain enough about your imagination that it's not worth attempting? Two, it may not end the war. But it reduces Israel's leverage. If you think any of the international pressure and opinions have any effect, then returning the hostages is a winning move.
- 8note 1y ago> Palestinians' [position] would strengthen in what way? what new negotiating or military power would the palestinians gain?
- HDThoreaun 1y agoIsrael does not want gaza. They want the west bank. Gaza is worthless land, they just want the gazans gone.
- RobertoG 1y agoso, they want the people that it's there now gone, and the control of that territory, but they don't want Gaza.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> they want the people that it's there now gone, and the control of that territory Israel's actions so far have shown it doesn't want Gaza controlled by Hamas. Some elements want to annex it. But it seems they've been quelled given Netanyahu's agreement to Trump's 20-point plan, which does not grant Israel control.
- HDThoreaun 1y agoIsrael's ideal outcome with gaza is for egypt to take it and all the gazans. They do not care about controlling the region, they just want the gazans gone.