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Would it be acceptable even with a justification?
by tboyd47 1y ago
Would it be acceptable even with a justification?
- munk-a 1y agoIf a justification was given we'd be able to evaluate the worthiness of that decision - if there were technical notes about, for instance, food safety concerns, we could evaluate the justification against other standards in different areas of the world around proper formula storage. Without a justification the decision is arbitrary and silences any ability to push back against it within the normal bounds of dialog. A justification would potentially allow aid groups to remedy whatever the specific deficiency is if it is a reasonable deficiency to remedy. If there was a justification it might be acceptable - depending on the justification - without a justification it is unacceptable when there is such a clear need. The aid is blocked and there is no recourse to unblock it outside the current attempts to just smuggle it in.
- falconroar 1y agoStarving infants is justifiable sometimes? When?
- munk-a 1y agoIt is justifiable to stop a shipment of baby formula if that baby formula is known to be unsafe and carry bacteria that will kill infants. I think in this particular case it's quite safe to say that those blocking the shipments aren't acting in good faith, however.
- falconroar 1y agoDoes the food carry bacteria in reality? Why are we talking about bizarre hypotheticals?
- kergonath 1y agoNo, but the callousness of an arbitrary decision without even spending 10 seconds to make up a pretend reason is a pure display of power. They do what they want and they don’t care one bit about even looking like the good guys.
- tboyd47 1y agoEvery con has an expiration date.
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- wat10000 1y agoThat rather depends on the justification. "We think you might be planning to use that to feed babies," no. "There's a small canister of nerve gas concealed in the middle," yes.
- margalabargala 1y agoPotentially. The main ingredient in Hamas' rocket fuel is sugar. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_candy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_candy That would be an acceptable justification for confiscating sugar. If Hamas were making rocket fuel somehow out of baby formula, then yes, that would be an acceptable justification. That said baby formula cannot in fact be meaningfully used to make explosives, so this is not acceptable.
- falconroar 1y agoStarving infants is morally justifiable if it's possible to make a rocket from their food?
- gsinclair 1y agoPreventing the entry of something that can be made into a weapon is justified, yes. If you want to call that “starving children”, that’s up to you.
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- falconroar 1y agoWithholding food from children results in children starving. It’s not semantics.
- margalabargala 1y agoOnly in the same way that pointing at a starving infant as a prop is a moral justification for using food meant for the infant instead to manufacture weapons.