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I trust that I can get the news from US Media, and I trust my own critical thinking to understand that the news has always been and will always be biased in one

by jmuguy 1y ago

I trust that I can get the news from US Media, and I trust my own critical thinking to understand that the news has always been and will always be biased in one way or another. That bias can shift also, for instance I would say the NY Times is much more conservative now, even while being held up as this big liberal institution.

thegrim33 1y ago
>>the NY Times is much more conservative now Well, here's the current, at this moment, nytimes front page stories: - Negative story about Trump - Negative story about Trump's immigration policy - FUD story about how bad division has become (ironic) - Negative story about Trump - Negative story about Trump / energy department - Negative story about Trump's healthcare plans .. stopped scrolling at this point when I reach a slew of Israel headlines Yup, checks out, it's definitely conservative. With all those anti-trump, anti-conservative stories on the front page every single day of the year, without fail. I'm sure if I offered you $10,000 to reply with a single pro-conservative headline that they've published in the last 10 years you could surely cash in on that bet, you know, with how pro-conservative they are now. Should be a sure bet.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  I like that Trump has not only acquired the GOP brand but also the conservative brand. There was a time that a bonkers deficit, violations of personal freedoms, domestic troop deployments, and expansive executive power was antithetical to conservatism. Now, it's whatever he says it is.
  - rufus_foreman 1y ago
    >> There was a time that a bonkers deficit, violations of personal freedoms, domestic troop deployments, and expansive executive power was antithetical to conservatism President Eisenhower sent 1,000 soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division into a US city to escort some kids to school. That was a domestic troop deployment. Was that antithetical to conservatism? Was Eisenhower no true conservative?
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      I don't get it. Is this supposed to be a gotcha or do you honestly believe that conservatives never actually cared about soldiers performing law enforcement? Considering this was a fairly isolated incident, perhaps Eisenhower was a conservative who encountered extenuating circumstances? Or he was an imperfect conservative? Also "to escort some kids to school" is a bold way to phrase it.

by jmuguy 1y ago

thegrim33 1y ago

>>the NY Times is much more conservative now Well, here's the current, at this moment, nytimes front page stories: - Negative story about Trump - Negative story about Trump's immigration policy - FUD story about how bad division has become (ironic) - Negative story about Trump - Negative story about Trump / energy department - Negative story about Trump's healthcare plans .. stopped scrolling at this point when I reach a slew of Israel headlines Yup, checks out, it's definitely conservative. With all those anti-trump, anti-conservative stories on the front page every single day of the year, without fail. I'm sure if I offered you $10,000 to reply with a single pro-conservative headline that they've published in the last 10 years you could surely cash in on that bet, you know, with how pro-conservative they are now. Should be a sure bet.

cosmicgadget 1y ago
I like that Trump has not only acquired the GOP brand but also the conservative brand. There was a time that a bonkers deficit, violations of personal freedoms, domestic troop deployments, and expansive executive power was antithetical to conservatism. Now, it's whatever he says it is.
- rufus_foreman 1y ago
  >> There was a time that a bonkers deficit, violations of personal freedoms, domestic troop deployments, and expansive executive power was antithetical to conservatism President Eisenhower sent 1,000 soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division into a US city to escort some kids to school. That was a domestic troop deployment. Was that antithetical to conservatism? Was Eisenhower no true conservative?
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    I don't get it. Is this supposed to be a gotcha or do you honestly believe that conservatives never actually cared about soldiers performing law enforcement? Considering this was a fairly isolated incident, perhaps Eisenhower was a conservative who encountered extenuating circumstances? Or he was an imperfect conservative? Also "to escort some kids to school" is a bold way to phrase it.